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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Poll Option Votes Graph
Yes 22
63% 
No 3
9% 
I dont know, but your full of s**t like an a**hole 1
3% 
No, Euros and Americans are a**holes 4
11% 
Yes, but i'm an a**hole too 3
9% 
You're more akin to the pyloric sphincter 2
6% 

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Am I an a**hole? - Bouldering ettiquite.
EvDog
31/07/2013
7:17:52 PM
I'm a boulderer, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that; 1. The recent fervour surrounding the closure of parts of the Rocklands. 2. Several discussions I've heard recently about how shit it is at Hueco, and 3. The growing loathing of a group of high profile persons who like to post pics of themselves climbing in closed areas, all stem the collective realisation that we in Aus have been blessed with amazingly unfettered access to whatever boulders we want, whenever we want it, and that this situation is by no means guaranteed, and indeed might be in jeopardy some time soon.

I have spent a lot of time bouldering in the north recently and its clear that the increased number of boulderers there is having a major impact. Andersons has become a maze of well worn tracks, half of them pointless tracks of laziness, tick marks abound, litter and forgotten belongings where not plentiful but they were there, trees and shrubs had been stomped on and bushes clearly squished by pads, obvious built landings have begun to crop up involving masses of tree branches and there was an alarming amount of toilet paper visible not far off the beaten track.

I'm not going to blame all this on Euros and Americans (though they probably are part of the problem), but rather suggest that times have changed and perhaps our bouldering ethics and practices should change with them.

In my time as a boulderer I've afforded myself a lot of local luxuries; I've put tick marks on rocks I forgot to brush off, passed up the car park toilets in favour of shitting in the bush, stashed my pads, draped pads over tree trunks and bushes, trundled rocks that pissed me off, bush bashed through km's of forest in search of the next Andersons and brushed and chalked up anything that looked like it might go from Buandik to The Tower to Crag X and beyond, without ever thinking too much about where I was or if anyone might not want me to do this. These acts might not be heinous in isolation, nor are they strictly forbidden, but if every clown who comes to the Grampians where to emulate my actions then I imagine shit would get messed up pretty quickly; this would hardly be sustainable.

So I put it to you all, am I an a**hole? Should I not do these things? Can we really question the actions of visitors given the example we currently set? As we grow in number do we need to set our selves higher standards and stronger rules to deal with the impact we have? VOTE NOW!

Climboholic
31/07/2013
7:31:10 PM
As a rule, I don't think that someone who asks if they're an arsehole, is usually one.

I voted for 'I'm an a**hole too'. But then again, I wouldn't call myself a boulderer and you spell arse like a yank. So maybe I'm wrong?

Duang Daunk
31/07/2013
8:13:42 PM
On 31/07/2013 EvDog wrote:
> As we grow in number do we need to set our selves higher standards
>and stronger rules to deal with the impact we have? VOTE NOW!

You ask the question,
>Am I an a**hole?
Yes, is my answer.
Set yourself a higher standard.

The fact that you are already aware of a higher standard begs the question, why dont you adhere to it instead of asking about it?

E. Wells
31/07/2013
8:52:00 PM
Did you bury your shit in a hole deeper than 15cm?

Duang Daunk
31/07/2013
9:25:08 PM
On 31/07/2013 E. Wells wrote:
>Did you bury your shit in a hole deeper than 15cm?

which part of this did you not understand?
>I have spent a lot of time bouldering in the north recently and its clear that the increased number of boulderers there is having a major impact. Andersons has become a maze of well worn tracks, half of them pointless tracks of laziness, tick marks abound, litter and forgotten belongings where not plentiful but they were there, trees and shrubs had been stomped on and bushes clearly squished by pads, obvious built landings have begun to crop up involving masses of tree branches and there was an alarming amount of toilet paper visible not far off the beaten track.

E. Wells
31/07/2013
9:56:51 PM
Oh ...he did them all.....I see.

koalapie
3/08/2013
6:01:31 PM
Yes, but it's approaching catch22 so potentially not possible. If you pick up a cigarette butt or piece of rubbish for every wrong you have committed in the past each time you are at the crag from now on, you may be able to save your sole.
technogeekery
3/08/2013
8:36:00 PM
More importantly - what is ettiquite? Is it when you almost can reach the move from the top step of your etriers, but not quite? Oops - this is about bouldering, so the Not Quite bit refers somehow to "Like Climbing?"

koalapie
3/08/2013
8:55:02 PM
I'm not sure if I understood, but it may depend on locations. If one was missing an arm, topping out would always be the crux, hence stacking multiple pads towards a 2.2 m problem may not affect the ethnics.
stugang
3/08/2013
10:27:46 PM
Huh!? Surely if you were missing an arm the second move off the ground would be the crux.

koalapie
4/08/2013
12:19:27 AM
We met by the river no?

shortman
4/08/2013
1:30:48 AM
Na, Stu doesn't talk to people in real life.

Climboholic
5/08/2013
11:33:30 AM
On 3/08/2013 koalapie wrote:
>I'm not sure if I understood, but it may depend on locations. If one was
>missing an arm, topping out would always be the crux, hence stacking multiple
>pads towards a 2.2 m problem may not affect the ethnics.

I don't really follow your logic. Either you're a boulderer or the leader of the opposition promoting your new plan to stop the boat people.
One Day Hero
5/08/2013
4:11:38 PM
On 3/08/2013 stugang wrote:
>Huh!? Surely if you were missing an arm the second move off the ground
>would be the crux.

Actually, if you can stick the first move, the second should be a piece of piss

Duang Daunk
5/08/2013
5:17:50 PM
On 5/08/2013 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 3/08/2013 stugang wrote:
>>Huh!? Surely if you were missing an arm the second move off the ground
>>would be the crux.
>
>Actually, if you can stick the first move, the second should be a piece
>of piss

Get with the times ODH. Despite the stats indicating the original poster is an {DD edit; stugang}, you obviously didn't attend the Banff Mtn Film Festy thing in Aust, where the Gympmonkeys proved any amount of moves can be done on the big stone, and a prosthetic limb feels no pain when jam-bling-ing.

Edited post; due to soft-eddy taking the Nati boulderer initiative, causing me to reflect deeply and so I have edited my post according to his lame wishes.

Eduardo Slabofvic
5/08/2013
5:28:32 PM
I object to the use of the term "a**hole" on a public forum such as this.

Can the Moderators please replace that term with the new term "Stugang" so as to preserve our delicate sensitivities.

koalapie
5/08/2013
9:01:54 PM
>I don't really follow your logic. Either you're a boulderer or the leader
>of the opposition promoting your new plan to stop the boat people.

Your obviously a staunch coalition supporter. Somebody grab the moderators!

wallwombat
7/08/2013
1:07:04 AM
On 31/07/2013 Climboholic wrote:
> and you spell arse like a yank. So maybe I'm wrong?

Gold!
jprockbelly
7/08/2013
4:06:15 PM
On 31/07/2013 EvDog wrote:
>So I put it to you all, am I an a**hole?

Votes are in amigo, whats left to ponder?

Another riveting and thoughtful chockstone discussion

Climboholic
8/08/2013
7:48:09 AM
On 5/08/2013 koalapie wrote:
>>I don't really follow your logic. Either you're a boulderer or the leader
>>of the opposition promoting your new plan to stop the boat people.
>
>Your obviously a staunch coalition supporter. Somebody grab the moderators!

Yes, obviously racism is a key policy position I look for in a political party.

On 3/08/2013 koalapie wrote:
>... may not affect the ethnics.

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