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12-Apr-2013 3:35:17 PM
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Or drill two holes right next to the bolt and hit it sideways into this hole. Its actually pretty neat, since you end up patching a ~16mm hole rather than a 10mm hole, and you don't need to do too much hammering/crow-baring of the surrounding rock.
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12-Apr-2013 4:30:42 PM
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+1... thats the quickest solution and with a good patch job is the way to go for glue ins.
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12-Apr-2013 9:35:24 PM
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On 10/04/2013 Macciza wrote:
>Well, apart from there already being multiple 'codes' telling them not
>to do it in the first place, in general trad 'projects' are usually 'open'
>if you are trying it trad, but 'closed' to bolting . . .
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Well such codes are lost in the dungeons of interweblandia. Polish them up stick em up on noticeboards and gyms, and clearly say the consequence of a breach is a chopping...and when you see a breach chop it.
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13-Apr-2013 6:50:29 PM
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Thanks for the info. I can see why the preference is to be sure about puting them in in the first place.
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14-Apr-2013 10:52:44 AM
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Easily found - follow link on front page . . .
Maybe this should be more widely circulated, and followed . . .
Though not exactly sure what their breach policy actually is . . .
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14-Apr-2013 8:54:40 PM
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On 14/04/2013 Macciza wrote:
>Easily found - follow link on front page . . .
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>Maybe this should be more widely circulated, and followed . . .
>Though not exactly sure what their breach policy actually is . . .
Nup 15 sec attention span so if I don't get it 1st try or 2nd try or third try I won't get it ever. Also who gives a fck what their breach is just publish yours and the consequences and get on with life.
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31-Jul-2015 3:41:06 PM
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Two years on now; ... so what was the outcome of (this thread's) subject climb chopping/retros, ie is the trad line still bolted?
Post edit:
As feedback on other similar 'line crossing events' that took place at about the same time at other locations; I have since heard that certain bolts have been removed at Mt Kiera and Mt Buffalo...
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3-Aug-2015 7:51:45 AM
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This thread is such a wank. How many of you are climbing 25 trad? Yeh right. Why don't both of you suck it up and aim to climb like this bloke, who doesn't give a s**t about bolts on his trad route:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TeTejh1ebs
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3-Aug-2015 9:36:55 AM
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Here's an interesting ethical question from the video above. At one point he states "These tufas are fragile, if I fall they could blow" (or something like that).
The question is:
Is it more ethical in the situation where the gear could destroy the hold/rock/climb, to place a bolt instead?
Wouldn't a bolt do much less damage than breaking off a feature that would not break off under body weight? I'm talking about a critical placement here, not one that can be skipped.
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3-Aug-2015 10:11:20 AM
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On 3/08/2015 OodlesDownHere wrote:
>This thread is such a wank.
You realise the discussion you're replying to is more than 2 years old?
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3-Aug-2015 2:32:45 PM
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Warning: thread drift...
On 3/08/2015 OodlesDownHere wrote:
>This thread is such a wank. How many of you are climbing 25 trad? Yeh right.
>(snip)
Grade 25 trad is not something to aspire to, or be proud of? ... especially if one manages to do it consistently...
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