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She sells sea shells - Point Perp

Macciza
4/03/2013
4:30:57 PM
Miguel - Actually I thought it would be an 'either / or' situation given the subtle differences in the terms , , , Never expected both to be appropriated . . .

Shortman - I'm guessing that means 'disinclined to acquiesce to the request' . . .

E. Wells
4/03/2013
6:27:39 PM
People rapping in and not being able to ascend theyre rap rope sounds unlikely?! Maybe they oughta just crack an Epirb or something!!

Big G
Online Now
4/03/2013
6:40:27 PM
On 4/03/2013 E. Wells wrote:
>People rapping in and not being able to ascend theyre rap rope sounds unlikely?!
>Maybe they oughta just crack an Epirb or something!!

People just dropping in on a thread, not reading it properly and making a comment seems unlikely...
uwhp510
4/03/2013
7:23:55 PM
On 4/03/2013 E. Wells wrote:
>People rapping in and not being able to ascend theyre rap rope sounds unlikely?!
>Maybe they oughta just crack an Epirb or something!!




Miguel75
4/03/2013
7:59:31 PM
On 4/03/2013 Macciza wrote:
>Miguel - Actually I thought it would be an 'either / or' situation given
>the subtle differences in the terms , , , Never expected both to be appropriated

I reckon if you can get away with it go for it;) I'd like the following on mine;

Miguel75, incredibly handsome criminal genius and master of all villainy!
kieranl
4/03/2013
8:04:17 PM
On 4/03/2013 Miguel75 wrote:
>
>I reckon if you can get away with it go for it;) I'd like the following
>on mine;
>
>Miguel75, incredibly handsome criminal genius and master of all villainy!

Couldn'y you get done for impersonating Artemis Fowl ?
Olbert
4/03/2013
8:21:26 PM
Sorry Big G but I have to say if your friends rapped into Windjammer then pulled their rap rope all they have to blame for their epics is themselves. If they didn't pull their rap rope but didn't or couldn't ascend it then that's their fault too.

Relying on a particular route to get out with no alternative is a bad idea. It could be unclimbable for a number of perfectly legitimate reasons, one of which being it was a retrobolt and needed to be chopped.

Big G
Online Now
4/03/2013
8:24:07 PM
Don't get me wrong olbert, lessons have been learned. All I ask is that the choppers let someone know.
If they are so indignant about the bolts, surely they would be proud of their efforts. I am not necessarily pro the bolts or anti just think people need to communicate their actions.

Also before anyone else tries to turn it into a sport v trad argument. These guys had spent most of the day climbing on gear elsewhere at the point.


nmonteith
4/03/2013
8:33:01 PM
What's next on the chopping block?
Olbert
4/03/2013
9:12:23 PM
I'm not sure what manner you expect the debolters to publicise their efforts. If they post on chockstone they only miss out on most climbers, they can't leave a tag on the bolts because the bolts aren't there... What else is there?

You can't blame the debolters for taking away the only means of escape - when it shouldn't be the only means of escape. What if a hold had broken? What if an animal had taken residence halfway up the climb? What if a bolt had broken? What if someone had smeared sunscreen all over the holds in anger of retrobolting? What if the leader got too i injured to climb?

Big G
Online Now
4/03/2013
9:30:02 PM
They did leave the bts that suited them. The belay, bolts above a ledge. Tag would have worked just fine.

Macciza
4/03/2013
9:44:52 PM
On 4/03/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>What's next on the chopping block?

Not sure you'll get much response here . . .
I'll post some BM updates to the Safer Cliffs forum later . . .

Miguel75
4/03/2013
9:51:28 PM
On 4/03/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>What's next on the chopping block?

Redex;)
dalai
5/03/2013
9:16:04 AM
On 4/03/2013 Miguel75 wrote:
>On 4/03/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>>What's next on the chopping block?
>
>Redex;)

Good. I'll get the pitchforks crowbar...
PThomson
5/03/2013
9:25:42 AM
Does Rick ever join these forums? I'd be interested to see what he has to say about this.

Not so much the purported epic getting off Windjammer ledge, (I'm of two minds towards that), but more about the removal of this route. There was a veritable army of climbers rambling up it when I was out at Point Perp over Australia day, and it seemed to be getting a good response (I was over on Bad Luck Streak at the time).

mattbrooks
5/03/2013
9:42:22 AM
I dont understand why somebody would expend all the energy required to debolt it. Not like it was a mega epic trad route!

BundyBear
5/03/2013
10:18:46 AM
On 4/03/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>What's next on the chopping block?

It has to be "Turning of the Tide"

Why should this route still exist when these new climbs are being chopped...

Consistency Please !!!
One Day Hero
5/03/2013
10:48:54 AM
On 5/03/2013 mattbrooks wrote:
>I dont understand why somebody would expend all the energy required to
>debolt it. Not like it was a mega epic trad route!

Ah c'mon Matt, you know why it was done...................after all, it's only 2 weeks ago that you were climbing next to me on Windjammer Wall, clipping rings next to stonker horizontals, and asking "why is that bolt there?"

nmonteith
5/03/2013
12:15:28 PM
Isn't Sea Shells a multipitch route? I was led to believe there are pitches below the Windjammer ledge. I'm not sure if they are bolted or not...? I presume they would be since it was Rick's route. Are these getting chopped as well? Having to "escape" from down at sea level without a trad rack (and after pulling your rap rope) would be a lot more serious!

BundyBear
5/03/2013
12:17:54 PM
they are not chopped. that would be too much like hard work and the chopper would get no cred, cuz no one climbs the lower pitches anyway

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