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How long can climbers go without bitching?

macey
30/01/2013
9:52:37 PM
But wouldn't it be so lovely if we could all speak to each other in a respectful and pleasant way regardless of differing opinions? For example:
"Hey Johnno (Matty, Fred, whoever) , thats a lovely frock you're wearing today. It's probably not a colour I'd wear personally, however it matches your army boots really well and GODDAMN if it doesn't just make your eyes pop!"

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30/01/2013
9:55:41 PM
On 30/01/2013 macey wrote:
>But wouldn't it be so lovely if we could all speak to each other in a respectful
>and pleasant way regardless of differing opinions? For example:
> "Hey Johnno (Matty, Fred, whoever) , thats a lovely frock you're
>wearing today. It's probably not a colour I'd wear personally, however
>it matches your army boots really well and GODDAMN if it doesn't just make
>your eyes pop!"
>

That sounds like a couple of suitable route names for new climbs, to me!
Heh, heh, heh.

shortman
30/01/2013
10:08:25 PM
On 30/01/2013 macey wrote:
>But wouldn't it be so lovely if we could all speak to each other in a respectful
>and pleasant way regardless of differing opinions? For example:
> "Hey Johnno (Matty, Fred, whoever) , thats a lovely frock you're
>wearing today. It's probably not a colour I'd wear personally, however
>it matches your army boots really well and GODDAMN if it doesn't just make
>your eyes pop!"
>
They call it Facebook.
One Day Hero
30/01/2013
10:17:04 PM
http://xkcd.com/1095/

I don't know how to embed these things

shortman
30/01/2013
10:27:19 PM
On 30/01/2013 One Day Hero wrote:
>http://xkcd.com/1095/
>
>I don't know how to embed these things

If I knew I'd help ya. Get ya shit together Damo.
dalai
30/01/2013
11:57:30 PM
Here you go ODH... *Throws another log on the campfire and passes the goon*


Snacks
31/01/2013
7:44:29 AM
On 30/01/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>I honestly think the forums don't really represent real life. I've been
>to heaps of crags with the worst of the worst on these forums and its always
>been civil - actually a lot better than just civil - fun! Everyone gets
>along when they are actually climbing together. Most of the bitterness
>probably comes from people who WANT to be climbing - but instead are sitting
>on the internet (injured, bad weather or at work).

Amen to that.
Tastrad
31/01/2013
8:46:25 AM
Hi Wendy. Bumped into any whingeing cows as well?

Climboholic
31/01/2013
11:34:32 AM
On 30/01/2013 macey wrote:
>Doesn't look very promising, does it? It's a shame because it strongly
>suggests there's not really any such thing as a "rock climbing community"
>here in Oz. It seems our climbing "community" unfortunately consists of
>quite a few self-important individuals who are rather prone to "tall poppy
>syndrome" and who would rather spend time boasting and arguing about how
>much better their knowledge, choices, achievements and testicular circumferences
>are, rather than being supportive, caring and happy for one another regardless
>of ability, style, boldness or any other differences. The more I discover
>the about the attitudes present in my chosen sport, the less proud I feel
>to be a climber and the more I feel like walking away. It's little wonder
>that our superstars find other countries so attractive.

Nonsense! Climbers are the most inclusive and chilled out people I know.

I tend to be contrary and hyperbolic on Chockstone because I treat it as entertainment. But out in the mountains I think I'm pretty laid back.

Ps. I'm uncomfortable when people call climbing a sport because it has connotation of competition.

*Edit
spicelab
31/01/2013
1:56:17 PM
On 30/01/2013 macey wrote:
>I'm interested to see how long a conversation can last on Chocky before
>one climber puts down, slags off, or whines about another fellow climber.


You haven't been on the interweb long have you.
martym
31/01/2013
2:21:51 PM
On 30/01/2013 macey wrote:
>I guess you're right. And Neil has a good point also. Things said on forums
>don't necessarily follow thru into the real world, and those that do are
>not usually the little trivial things said on posts like these. It's just
>interesting to note though, in about 15 or so replies to this topic, about
>half of them have been somewhat "heated". The whole point of my post was
>to see how long we could all be nice and respectful to each other. Just
>a bit of light hearted fun really. :-)


Does anyone remember chatrooms back in the 90s?
Tons of anonymous people talking shit ... then it got a bit more formalised & the internet became mainstream... now your post gets saved forever carved in (virtual) stone.
It surprises me sometimes how some people seem to think Chockstone is unique... Every topic and subgenre has a forum (or 200) dedicated to it.
It varies from white supremacy to huggies nappies.
Each has trolls, moderators & the occasional "real forum" post...
spicelab
31/01/2013
2:38:47 PM
On 31/01/2013 martym wrote:

>Does anyone remember chatrooms back in the 90s?
>Tons of anonymous people talking shit ... then it got a bit more formalised
>& the internet became mainstream... now your post gets saved forever carved
>in (virtual) stone.
>It surprises me sometimes how some people seem to think Chockstone is
>unique... Every topic and subgenre has a forum (or 200) dedicated to it.
>It varies from white supremacy to huggies nappies.
>Each has trolls, moderators & the occasional "real forum" post...

Bingo. Couldn't have said it better.

The idea that Chocky is somehow unique or exceptional in the nastiness department is garbage.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
31/01/2013
2:49:41 PM
>The idea that Chocky is somehow unique or exceptional in the nastiness department is garbage.

It only takes a short perusal of other website climbing forums (including the Australian ones), to realise that Chockstone is possibly the mildest amongst them! Little wonder that it is by far and away the most popular climbing forum in Australia*...
Viva la differenc e!!
Heh, heh, heh.

(*Stat from today's statistic page = 202043 total posts, 358 in the last week. Of 5975 registered members 192 logged in today, 414 in the last week, 1080 in the last six months. This is actually a low set of figures due not including lurkers, and also that January usually being a quiet month compared to others. I have also noticed the bitchyness is often worst towards the end of winter when people are still couped up inside when they would rather be out there climbing.)

gnaguts
31/01/2013
3:23:29 PM
On 30/01/2013 dalai wrote:
>Here you go ODH... *Throws another log on the campfire and passes the goon*
>
while waiting for the branding iron to get red hot?
lost tazmaniac
31/01/2013
9:54:02 PM
Would chocky benefit if everyone had their real name.. Instead of 'user names' just a thought?

E. Wells
31/01/2013
10:08:27 PM
I dont think I would get as many chuckles out of it all.

MarcusfromHamilton
31/01/2013
11:08:30 PM
I think maybe it would be more appropriate to rename this thread: "how long can climbers go on bitching?"

macey
31/01/2013
11:34:36 PM
Haha! The whole underlying point of starting this thread was to see if it was possible for people to talk to one another, regardless of differing opinions, in a way that displayed some kind of respect for somewhat opposing stand points. It wasn't about seeing whether we could agree or not (as thats obviously unrealistic in ANY corner of the world!) but rather about how well we can respect each other as unique individuals with unique preferences, and whether or not we are capable of speaking to each other in a way that does not set out to discredit the choices made by those who do things differently to us.

I may not necessarily agree with the actions of people around me, however I still make an effort to speak to others in a respectful, diplomatic and open minded way whether online or face to face. We will never agree about everything, and once again, it's unrealistic to expect as much. However I DO feel much more thought could be given to the way we go ABOUT disagreeing.

I didn't name this thread "How long can climbers go without DISAGREEING", but rather "How long can climbers go without BITCHING". I admit that I'm not always the brightest star in the sky and sometimes I simply get things wrong or catch myself out of line, (I have since investigated the word "community" and as such, admit that, my second post was a hasty, misinformed and somewhat ignorant reply) however I always make the effort to treat others with the same respect that I'd like to receive from them, whether face to face, online, in a text or any other form of communication.







White Trash
1/02/2013
8:56:40 AM
your dreamin but it ok. i can see it now when the conflict gets out of hand, i respectfully kill you , will be the phrase of the day.

Doug
1/02/2013
9:28:01 AM
On 31/01/2013 lost tazmaniac wrote:
>Would chocky benefit if everyone had their real name.. Instead of 'user
>names'?

Yes.

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