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Arapiles Summer (warning nanny-state ahead)
hero
30-Sep-2015
1:38:20 PM
On 30/09/2015 gnaguts wrote:
>On 30/09/2015 hero wrote:
>>I'll add this for reference.
>>
>>http://harmful.cat-v.org/people/basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/?utm_content=buffer50a1c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
>
>Thx hero. I now know all about stupid people and bandits.
>Please remind me never to argue with you otherwise you will drag me down
>to your level and beat me with experience.
>Your insights are valuable in what is likely to be a elnino hotter and
>drier summer than we normally have, so are you now booking ahead for punters
>wanting to do Tiger Wall this Jan-Feb or are you leaving that to kman?

I'm just pointing out that Natural Selection is the special prize that stupid people can win. And some of us have miraculously survived to a ripe old age despite that.



IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Sep-2015
2:02:39 PM
On 30/09/2015 hero wrote:
>I'm just pointing out that Natural Selection is the special prize that
>stupid people can win. And some of us have miraculously survived to a ripe
>old age despite that.
>
On behalf of some other elderly gents on this site, and myself, speak for yourself mate... ☺
Heh, heh, heh.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Sep-2015
3:15:28 PM
On 30/09/2015 gnaguts wrote:
(snip)
>Your insights are valuable in what is likely to be a elnino hotter and drier summer than we normally have, (snip)

You are right.
The latest news according to the Met Bureau...
El Niño persists as positive IOD emerges in a warm Indian Ocean
The tropical Pacific ocean and atmosphere are reinforcing each other, maintaining a strong El Niño that is likely to persist into early 2016. Tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures are more than 2 °C above average, exceeding El Niño thresholds by well over 1 °C, and at levels not seen since the 1997–98 event. In the atmosphere, tropical cloudiness has shifted east, trade winds have been consistently weaker than normal, and the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) is strongly negative.

Most international climate models surveyed by the Bureau of Meteorology indicate El Niño is likely to peak towards the end of 2015. Typically, El Niño is strongest during the late austral spring or early summer, and weakens during late summer to autumn.

The Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) is in a positive phase, having exceeded the +0.4 °C threshold for the past 8 weeks. Recent values of the IOD index have been at levels not seen since the strong 2006 positive IOD event. Conversely, the Indian Ocean remains very warm on the broader scale.

Four out of five international models suggest the 2015 positive IOD event will persist until November, when it typically breaks down due to monsoon development.

El Niño is usually associated with below-average spring rainfall over eastern Australia, and increased spring and summer temperatures for southern and eastern Australia. A positive IOD typically reinforces the drying pattern, particularly in the southeast. However, sea surface temperatures across the whole Indian Ocean basin have been at record warm levels, and appear to be off-setting the influence of these two climate drivers in some areas.


I could easily be wrong but lacto (& others) may have another point of view that is worth considering...?
kieranl
22-Dec-2017
7:59:43 AM
Forgot to bump this last year.

Here's wishing Eric Abetz a Happy Holiday. (edit: completely OT)
mikllaw
22-Dec-2017
9:09:44 AM
Heat stroke eh- it never happened to me till last week on a not-too-hot day (26C), toproping (solo) in the shade and suddenly everything felt very hard. Heart kept racing even once I was back on the deck. No phone but I had an Epirb thing. I lay in the shade and drank half a liter of water, poured another half liter over me then slowly walked out- it normally takes 6 minutes with a pack. Without a pack, with many rests, it took 30 minutes.
Cold shower and icy water 5 minutes later (at work) and I felt crappy for 36 hours.
PeterW
22-Dec-2017
10:12:34 AM
You might want to double check with a quack that it was "only" heat exhaustion. (Heat stroke would probably have been worse, and unlikely on a 26C day.) Both of those normally only occur when the body temperature exceeds 37C. I'd be more worried about something else being the real cause, like maybe heart arrhythmia or whatever - I'm no doctor.
hero
22-Dec-2017
11:08:12 AM
You're just old Michael :)

ajfclark
22-Dec-2017
12:37:45 PM
On 22-Dec-2017 mikllaw wrote:
>Heat stroke eh- it never happened to me till last week on a not-too-hot
>day (26C), toproping (solo) in the shade and suddenly everything felt very
>hard. Heart kept racing even once I was back on the deck. No phone but
>I had an Epirb thing. I lay in the shade and drank half a liter of water,
>poured another half liter over me then slowly walked out- it normally takes
>6 minutes with a pack. Without a pack, with many rests, it took 30 minutes.
>Cold shower and icy water 5 minutes later (at work) and I felt crappy
>for 36 hours.

You saw M9's thread, right?

IdratherbeclimbingM9
22-Dec-2017
12:44:59 PM
On 22-Dec-2017 PeterW wrote:
>You might want to double check with a quack that it was "only" heat exhaustion. (Heat stroke would probably have been worse, and unlikely on a 26C day.) Both of those normally only occur when the body temperature exceeds 37C. I'd be more worried about something else being the real cause, like maybe heart arrhythmia or whatever - I'm no doctor.

+1

Listen to your body mikl, especially when it gives you messages like that...
I was told by a doctor that an incident I experienced while out climbing was probably dehydration and not to worry about it... Subsequently I can vouch that it's preferable to do without a cbg/s if there are other alternatives!
:)
kieranl
22-Dec-2017
5:03:41 PM
On 22-Dec-2017 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 22-Dec-2017 PeterW wrote:
>>You might want to double check with a quack that it was "only" heat exhaustion.
>(Heat stroke would probably have been worse, and unlikely on a 26C day.)
>Both of those normally only occur when the body temperature exceeds 37C.
>I'd be more worried about something else being the real cause, like maybe
>heart arrhythmia or whatever - I'm no doctor.
>
>+1
>
>Listen to your body mikl, especially when it gives you messages like that...
>I was told by a doctor that an incident I experienced while out climbing
>was probably dehydration and not to worry about it... Subsequently I can
>vouch that it's preferable to do without a cbg/s if there are other alternatives!
>:)
>

Heat stress without the heat? I did promote this as a nanny-state thread so add my voice to the nagging of Mikl : get it checked out.

ps Hope you're going well M9.
widewetandslippery
22-Dec-2017
6:25:02 PM
-1 I have a mate who didnt have cancer until he went to the doctor, doctors make you sick, its there job
robbio
22-Dec-2017
7:06:39 PM
Good points Kieran.

Starting a climb at stupid oclock (ridiculously early) in the morning always helps. Nothing like waking up other climbers with the clang of hexes through the campground too!

I remember starting up the bard on a fricken hot summer's day with a bumbly, we set off on the climb just on sunrise. Early mornings are pretty amazing at araps as the morning sun hits the cliffs. Very memorable.

Doug
23-Dec-2017
3:29:56 AM
On 22-Dec-2017 kieranl wrote:
>Forgot to bump this last year.
>
>Here's wishing Eric Abetz a Happy Holiday. (edit: completely OT)
>

AKA "Erica Betz"
kieranl
4-Jan-2018
5:46:00 PM
And a bump for Saturday when it's going to be 42ish at Arapiles. Good day to go to the pool or surfing.

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