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Shooting In National Parks - NSW
citationx
31/05/2012
8:34:37 PM
On 31/05/2012 dangermouth wrote:
>Sounds like fun. Do you think the bullet hole in the perspex sign at the
>entrance to rocky creek deliberately where the koala illustration is....do
>you suppose they took a long deep breath too. Or the blokes that get on
>the piss then fang about in theyre utes shooting roos on theyre properties
>at midnight, are they gonna be so frickin consciencious?

Yes, because this clearly is what the bill passes that 35 comments been made on. The bill that the entire state is getting their knickers in a knot over. The bill passing the allowing of people shooting roos while they're pissed on their own property.
*deep breath*
climberman
31/05/2012
9:19:14 PM
On 31/05/2012 citationx wrote:
>On 31/05/2012 climberman wrote:
>>On 31/05/2012 ARidgley wrote:
>>
>>How do they know I'm not wandering through there tomorrow ?
>
>I guess it's similar to how they advertise other things that are occurring
>- "1080 baits have been laid in the area - beware". I'm sure they'll give
>warning at the major entrance points to the specified area.
>Of course, for hardarses like you, who i'm sure is now going to ask "what
>if I decide to walk from a non-standard entry point 2,475km away and don't
>see the signs" then it will be up to the hunter to make sure that he clearly
>identifies his target, takes a deep breath with the animal lined up in
>his sight and a spotter behind him to reassure him that there isn't anything
>else about to get in the way, exhales slowly and holds his breath right
>as the last of his breath leaves his body before gently squeezing the trigger
>(not jerking) so that he has the greatest chance of hitting the animal
>and nothing else, rather than treating anything that moves in the bush
>as a clay target and trying to hit it while wildly swinging a 1.2m long
>rifle around 180 degrees blatting away indiscriminately.

Fair enough. I only ever eat baits when I haven't seen the 1080 signs.

Hunters are only human. Humans make mistakes. Mistakes with firearms get ugly easily.

I'm not anti hunting, I just reckon there's enough of the State available for hunting, without opening NP's up for it as well. I'd rather not have to worry about it when I walk or ride or whatever in a Park. I know it's part of the territory if I go to a State Forest, or on much crown land (like dogs, and motos), and would prefer that territory wasn't extended to NP's.

Eduardo Slabofvic
31/05/2012
9:28:43 PM
On 31/05/2012 ajfclark wrote:
>A hammer.

Technically its a mallet

IdratherbeclimbingM9
31/05/2012
9:46:08 PM
Nsw gov is clever (devious?). Do you reckon they really give a rats a*** about it, especially when OFarrell was anti shooting in NP's back when the bill was first raised in parliament?

The libs are obviously much more concerned about selling off State owned Power utilities, and this was a concession made to do it in todays political climate.
Now that they have achieved that goal, I reckon it is only a matter of time before a tragedy occurs and they then have full justification to outlaw shooting in NP's; ie they weighed up the short term disadvantages vs their longer term agenda.
...Sad about the shooting victim yet to learn of it!
maadness
1/06/2012
1:08:11 AM
>Now that they have achieved that goal, I reckon it is only a matter of
>time before a tragedy occurs and they then have full justification to outlaw
>shooting in NP's; ie they weighed up the short term disadvantages vs their
>longer term agenda.

And then ban climbing in NP's when somebody sadly dies.
james
1/06/2012
3:58:02 AM
On 31/05/2012 Batey wrote:
>I also work
>for an energy supplier in nsw and would rather not see the energy industry
>privatised (i like my job and would like to keep it). If anything i dont
>think its right for either of the issues to be traded for on another.

Fear not... since Queensland electrical distribution was privatized, the staff numbers of what is now called Powerlink are many times greater than pre-privatization.

As for hunting... managed correctly it has potential to be a good thing. You can't just lock down parks in the name of conservation. As others have noted, feral/invasive species don't respect park boundaries. Parks need management in order to be kept in good condition.

Mr Poopypants
1/06/2012
6:56:30 AM
Are bullet holes considered chipped holds?

nmonteith
1/06/2012
8:42:01 AM
On 31/05/2012 Mr Poopypants wrote:
>Some of you might like to know that at the public meeting for the Dam Cliffs,
>Cosmic County, Freezer, Railway Cliffs proposed public reserve last Wed.
>a fellow announced that the Game Council of NSW intends to apply to declare
>the reserve open to hunting under the current scheme.

Last Saturday there was someone blasting away with a semi-automatic rifle in the forest below Cosmic County all day. Firing off 5+ shots in quick succession over and over again. I thought they were supposed to be totally illegal?

harold
1/06/2012
9:15:59 AM
On 31/05/2012 ARidgley wrote:
>I just heard an interview with the NSW Minister for the Environment on
>the radio. The plan as she explained it would be to isolate areas within
>parks a long time in advance of a proposed cull...

I have seen signs notifying of hunting nights for feral pigs/goats at the Youies and Werribee Gorge a number of times. Seems like this is the same sort of idea.
I used to see a quite a few goats and the odd pig at the Youies, but haven't since then so I guess it worked.

hero
1/06/2012
9:26:50 AM
Aren't us whiteys feral?
TonyB
1/06/2012
11:17:25 AM
NPWS considered climbing to be incompatible with whale watching in Sydney Harbour National Park. Can't see why shooting should be a problem.

BlankSlab
1/06/2012
12:13:40 PM
On 1/06/2012 TonyB wrote:
>NPWS considered climbing to be incompatible with whale watching in Sydney
>Harbour National Park. Can't see why shooting should be a problem.

Are you suggesting we go hunting for whale watchers....

deadbudgy
1/06/2012
12:16:36 PM
On 1/06/2012 TonyB wrote:
>NPWS considered climbing to be incompatible with whale watching in Sydney
>Harbour National Park. Can't see why shooting should be a problem.

I don't think NPWS support the hunting proposal. I think that rangers are on strike? A big fuch you to Fatty O'Barrell.

rodw
1/06/2012
12:22:18 PM
They do not have enough personnel to manage the users they got now...adding another group was bound to piss em off.

deadbudgy
1/06/2012
12:27:22 PM
On 1/06/2012 deadbudgy wrote:
>On 1/06/2012 TonyB wrote:
>>NPWS considered climbing to be incompatible with whale watching in Sydney
>>Harbour National Park. Can't see why shooting should be a problem.
>
>I don't think NPWS support the hunting proposal. I think that rangers
>are on strike? A big fuch you to Fatty O'Barrell.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/nsw-rangers-angry-over-hunting-in-parks/story-e6frf7jx-1226378826428
ARidgley
1/06/2012
2:00:14 PM
On 1/06/2012 Batey wrote:
>On 1/06/2012 TonyB wrote:
>>NPWS considered climbing to be incompatible with whale watching in Sydney
>>Harbour National Park. Can't see why shooting should be a problem.
>
>Are you suggesting we go hunting for whale watchers....

lmfao

evanbb
1/06/2012
3:04:00 PM
Sorry guys I haven't read all this, but....

Neil way up the page doesn't have any problem with private citizens culling ferals; fair enough. But, there's a key risk that has two bad outcomes; identifying your targets. First, the risk of shooting more people shouldn't be overlooked. That's pretty hard to manage, really. If people in NPs who aren't shooting need to modify their behaviour to avoid being shot the whole policy is an utter failure. The other problem, which is a big one with duck hunting, is misidentifying species. I would manage this by fining the living shit out of anyone caught shooting protected species.

The completely separate issue of coupling energy policy to recreational shooting is completely farked.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/06/2012
4:27:45 PM
On 1/06/2012 evanbb wrote:
>Sorry guys I haven't read all this, but....
>
>Neil way up the page doesn't have any problem with private citizens culling
>ferals; fair enough. But, there's a key risk that has two bad outcomes;
>identifying your targets. First, the risk of shooting more people shouldn't
>be overlooked. That's pretty hard to manage, really. If people in NPs who
>aren't shooting need to modify their behaviour to avoid being shot the
>whole policy is an utter failure. The other problem, which is a big one
>with duck hunting, is misidentifying species. I would manage this by fining
>the living shit out of anyone caught shooting protected species.
>
>The completely separate issue of coupling energy policy to recreational
>shooting is completely farked.

What were these blokes shooting in the marine park?

E. Wells
1/06/2012
6:23:41 PM
chocolate starfish
james
2/06/2012
12:32:25 AM
> I would manage this by fining
>the living shit out of anyone caught shooting protected species.

If you can't identify a target then you have no place hunting. Zero tolerance towards errors is the only way. Hunting is a big part of Canadian society, & if you shoot something that you don't have a tag for (ie a permit), or if its out of season, or if your hunting somewhere you should't be (eg: national parks) then there are massive fines & ALL hunting gear is confiscated. They take trucks, ATVs, camping gear, eskys, guns, everything. Everyone that I run across in Canada take the rules very seriously, & they seem fairly respectful of the environment also...

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