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21-Feb-2012 9:09:34 AM
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On 21/02/2012 Pat wrote:
>I have neither the Fantini cojones or the Grollo budget for stainless,
>so it will be somewhere in between the two.
I know you're only joking but if you dont have the budget to do it properly then don't do it. Not having the money is not a good enough reason for not making the climbs safe. The climbs will also no doubt get more ascents if bolted safely for the grade as well.
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21-Feb-2012 10:15:46 AM
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No excuse for anything less than Stainless Steel.
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21-Feb-2012 2:32:42 PM
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Agree with both of you - I was tongue in cheek saying I didn't have the budget for as much stainless as a Grollo style project - maybe M9 would like to explain what I mean.
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21-Feb-2012 4:40:01 PM
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Do you have the budget to glue all the choss into a cohesive mass of bomber rock, just like GOD did at Arapiles?
Would it be cheaper to excavate a large waterhole at the bottom and divert the Snowy River into it so we can enjoy deep water soloing without flying abroad?
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21-Feb-2012 10:53:42 PM
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Not anywhere near the Snowy. Re-diversion would rival the three gorges project - and the Chinese knocked me back on financing the thing.
Presumably the same God that fused Araps together gave us the inventiveness to produce glue, so your first suggestion may be on the cards, although it might not be a choss pile. We'll have to see.
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22-Feb-2012 10:44:03 AM
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I assume everyone knows Grollo is Joe, yes?
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22-Feb-2012 10:51:03 AM
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Rungs made with reo and non shrink grout is the way to go. Non elitist.
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22-Feb-2012 11:53:30 AM
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mmm..... via ferrata in the East - now that has a ring to it.
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22-Feb-2012 1:03:01 PM
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May sound like a silly question but have you got a photo of these walls or are you afraid that we will see them for the choss they are??
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22-Feb-2012 1:29:47 PM
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I do have some photos and you will see them for the choss they aren't. I have always found it difficult to upload photos - ie I haven't been able to work it out, - but I will have a go.
Behold it's magnificent chossiness. Not taken by me or a person who knows anything about climbing, so forgive the lack of decent detail.
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22-Feb-2012 1:43:21 PM
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On 22/02/2012 Pat wrote:
>Behold it's magnificent chossiness. Not taken by me or a person who knows
>anything about climbing, so forgive the lack of decent detail.
Which way is up?
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22-Feb-2012 1:55:43 PM
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Good dead pan delivery kieran. You are looking straight up the cliff standing at one part of its base, to some medium sized overhangs.
Not the best shot - I know.
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22-Feb-2012 2:09:22 PM
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Perhaps it should be reserved for dry tooling?
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22-Feb-2012 2:26:55 PM
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The vegetation to rock ratio is outstanding....
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22-Feb-2012 2:37:58 PM
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Thankyou - I can feel the respect for my discovery radiating from my screen. Most of you are obviously speechless with wonder - I can tell.
Seriously - there are better sections, but its much better to undersell and over-deliver if I can.
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22-Feb-2012 2:38:02 PM
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On 22/02/2012 kp wrote:
>The vegetation to rock ratio is outstanding....
Presumably the winter frozen turf climbing would also be outstanding.
How high is this mighty bastion - or, more usefully, how long would the best parts of the climbs be. I assume that there is some, but not a lot, of foreshortening in the photo.
Is it going to be worth the 6 hour drive from Nati?
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22-Feb-2012 4:01:51 PM
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Estimated heights at the moment around the 15 meter mark - if I say 45 feet does it sound higher?
Some foreshortening and this is not the highest part of the cliff.
6 hours from Nati? Where do you think the cliff is kieran?
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22-Feb-2012 4:12:12 PM
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If it's East of Melb, I'm guessing somewhere like Cathedrals - 4 hours to Melbourne central then another couple to the cliff. 6 hours including a meal break.
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22-Feb-2012 4:36:15 PM
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I think you are right Kieran, I have a feeling it is on the western side of the cathedrals near sunset strip and was exposed by the fires. When looking up from the Maroondah highway there appears to be a good looking wall with a couple of small overhangs, and possibly a resonable arete. Have been meaning to go and have a look but havent got round to it.
If it is in that neck of the woods how about fixing up sunset strip, ten fathom and neds peak at the same time
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22-Feb-2012 4:40:30 PM
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On 22/02/2012 davetheyounger wrote:
>If it is in that neck of the woods how about fixing up sunset strip, ten
>fathom and neds peak at the same time
Fix up how, dynamite??? ;-)
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