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Stuart Wyithe
jrc
13/10/2011
11:15:28 AM
Congratulations to the first Australian ascensionist of Punks in the Gym for his award of the PM Science prize for his work on the structure of the universe. More to physics than climbing alone reveals...

kuu
13/10/2011
12:49:27 PM
Read Stuart's own words about his work here:

http://theconversation.edu.au/back-to-where-we-started-tracing-the-origins-of-galaxies-3776
Dave J
13/10/2011
10:09:29 PM
$2.5 mil for some science stuff and what do you get for being the first australian in the world to climb punks? (or the second for that matter). A pair of boots!

His wife Wai Hong was part of a team that picked up a Eureka prize as well just recently....a good month they just had.



wallwombat
13/10/2011
10:20:28 PM
there is a long history of science nerds who climb well..


John Gill? Mikl's missus? Stugang? Dave Filan?
simey
13/10/2011
10:32:08 PM
On 13/10/2011 Dave J wrote:
>...and what do you get for being the first australian in the world to climb punks? (or the second for that matter).
> A pair of boots!

That's why Stuart decided to stop serious climbing and become a Dad. The baby bonus pays better.
widewetandslippery
14/10/2011
5:53:40 PM
Stuart I magine you lurk. Good work. Fond memories of piton gambit and drinking beer on route
Wendy
14/10/2011
6:30:51 PM
On 13/10/2011 wallwombat wrote:
>there is a long history of science nerds who climb well..
>
>
>John Gill? Mikl's missus? Stugang? Dave Filan?

I'm going to claim this as pure force of numbers. When I was in AUMC, I was the only arts student in a club of engineering and science students. Now, can someone explain why it is that climbing attracts engineers and scientists? And bags out sociologists?
climberman
14/10/2011
6:38:30 PM
On 13/10/2011 wallwombat wrote:
>there is a long history of science nerds who climb well..
>
>
>John Gill? Mikl's missus? Stugang? Dave Filan?

Is dave a science geek as well ? His dad tried to teach me stats at uni (poor bastard).

stugang
14/10/2011
8:10:29 PM
On 14/10/2011 Wendy wrote:
>On 13/10/2011 wallwombat wrote:
>>there is a long history of science nerds who climb well..
>>
>>
>>John Gill? Mikl's missus? Stugang? Dave Filan?
>
>I'm going to claim this as pure force of numbers. When I was in AUMC,
>I was the only arts student in a club of engineering and science students.
> Now, can someone explain why it is that climbing attracts engineers and
>scientists? And bags out sociologists?

Arts students are too busy shagging to worry about meaningless things like climbing. Engineers need something to do other than thinking about shagging.

Jokes aside. Firstly I think you need a bit of the obsessive compulsive to get really good at anything. I'm sure I've seen reports/studies that say scientists are more likely to be (and/or) have kids with autism/asbergers, think I have also seen something similar about climbers (or I could be getting mixed up with dyslexia)

Secondly, the further you get toward the pure math purity spectrum of "science" the harder it is to bullshit. You're either right or wrong, just like climbing - you get up or you don't....live or don't. If you fail you fail, no room for hurt feelings or different perspectives or interpretations....you suck.

addendum....same goes for team sports where you can be best on field in a losing team. Can't do that with climbing.... come to think of it...is that why simey took up footy?

wallwombat
15/10/2011
2:16:27 AM
On 14/10/2011 climberman wrote:

>Is dave a science geek as well ? His dad tried to teach me stats at uni
>(poor bastard).

No. I was taking the piss.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/10/2011
2:47:52 AM
On 15/10/2011 wallwombat wrote:
>On 14/10/2011 climberman wrote:
>
>>Is dave a science geek as well ? His dad tried to teach me stats at uni
>>(poor bastard).
>
>No. I was taking the piss.

?
Ah, come on ww; now you really are taking the p!ss.
~> Id bet good money that you have heard Dave make a dissertation or two...
& I know for a fact that he has the answers to lots of nerdy things!


rodw
15/10/2011
9:24:03 AM
To true M9, its been a life long work of his but hes is still working on his "Theory of Everything that is Beer".
mthrfckr
15/10/2011
9:58:57 AM
Hey Stugang, Nice theory however, Of the people I climbed with who have got doctorates.

Chris Shepherd - Sociology
Mark Colyvan - Philosophy
Ian Ravenscroft - Philosophy
Tim Van Gelder - Philosophy
Evan Bieske - Physics
Roger Bourne - Not sure what his is - Pig Shit?
San Diego Bill, Philosophy
Brian Birchall - Philosophy
Rob Leach - Literature
and I'm sure there are some I don't know of?
climberman
15/10/2011
10:00:10 AM
On 15/10/2011 wallwombat wrote:
>On 14/10/2011 climberman wrote:
>
>>Is dave a science geek as well ? His dad tried to teach me stats at uni
>>(poor bastard).
>
>No. I was taking the piss.

pretty sure his old man thought I was too.

stugang
15/10/2011
11:37:03 PM
On 15/10/2011 mthrfckr wrote:
>Hey Stugang, Nice theory however, Of the people I climbed with who have
>got doctorates.
>
>Chris Shepherd - Sociology
>Mark Colyvan - Philosophy
>Ian Ravenscroft - Philosophy
>Tim Van Gelder - Philosophy
>Evan Bieske - Physics
>Roger Bourne - Not sure what his is - Pig Shit?
>San Diego Bill, Philosophy
>Brian Birchall - Philosophy
>Rob Leach - Literature
>and I'm sure there are some I don't know of?

Dear heroic one

Personally think the whole arts/science divide is a bit of a furfy - I was just trying to work with the lovely ms eden's lead. The only thing I'd say is that through my years I have had many interesting conversations about music, literature and art with "scientists" yet very few interesting conversations about 'science" with those from the so called arts.

Wendy - how many of those Engineers in the AUMC ended up doing anything of note climbingwise. I started climbing with people that turned out to be engineers and they gave up by the time they were 18.

Regardless of whether its arts or science I do think that to get good at something you need to be a bit obsessive. And finally, I'd also put philosophy in the same bucket as pure maths - which makes us in agreement.

Eduardo Slabofvic
16/10/2011
7:20:14 AM
The link is that people who have PhDs have clearly spent most of their time at university doing nothing of any real value but then ponce around claiming they're good at something, which is the same thing that climbers do
Wendy
16/10/2011
10:08:11 AM
Stuart has a point, that most of those engineering/science students ended up abandoning climbing after Uni. So my new theory is that they needed something to take their minds off the tedium of their course for the duration. Or climbing trips were a good excuse for lots of drinking, which engineering student did seem to excel at.

My new theory on the phds is that a long career as a student enables much climbing. This alone makes it worth pursuing a phd. I expect there is also a fair collection of unfinished phds in the climbing community or phds that took the full 8 years or so allowed to finish, because the much climbing got in the way of actually writing stuff.
mthrfckr
16/10/2011
11:15:39 AM
Welcome back Eduardo. Chockstone has been poorer for the absence of your wit.

And Stugang, perhaps you undo you own claims.

lots of interesting conversations about arts with scientists, but few about science with artists could be interpreted differently

why is that following the links in Wikipedia ends up at philosophy after an average of 19 pages?

stugang
16/10/2011
7:54:39 PM
As far as I see it you are agreeing with me and not vice versa so I win.

In any case I hate everyone equally so am easily tripped up in my own vitriol.

Nevertheless oh oedipul one, I do stand by the fact that I have encountered more polymath types who lean to the math/science side of the grey divide than the other way around.
widewetandslippery
16/10/2011
8:12:42 PM
Phuck harder dryer

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