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11:32:32 AM |
On 16/09/2011 Macciza wrote: >Climbing's not 'all' about 'fun' . . . and anyway lots of the time it does >not have to be fun to be fun . . . . > >Plus the person wants something 'ambitious' - I consider that 'challenging, >with possibility of failure' or rather an initial 'unlikely to achieve' >appraisal. . . . Not just some 'depic-fail-dog' circus . . . >And I'm presuming that if he can't work one of those out within his current >gym/fun climbing circle than perhaps he's looking for something more substantial >. . . > >So SH may not be the best suggestion but it is certainly more 'ambitious' >a goal than climbing most of the routes there in the style that they generally >get climbed . . . . sorry . . . > >So here is a serious 'ambitious' recommendation - something larger than >your usual outing, maybe Buffalo, the Bungles or better still Frenchmans >Cap - >I am sure most climbers would be able to find themselves an ambitious >project at any of these cliffs . . . > >PS Most of those SH posts where probably me 'sand-bagging' Zac and myself >onto the route anyway,- Why? Probably because I felt like an ambitious >project that I knew I could at least give an honest attempt at regardless >of whether I succeeded or not in line with my stated ethics of the time >. . . >M9 - I meant it more in the sense of 'offf'-Broadway - but yours works >well . . . > SH looks pretty cool (http://routes.climb.org.au/index.php?page_id=10&action=route&route_id=15974) and certainly ambitous for where I am at the moment. I had a great time with shortman over the weekend. I seconded him on a couple easy trads and top-roped a 17 a couple of times. Before we left a Canadian guy showed up looking for partners and he led a 22 using a double belay. I tried seconding it and got a little over halfway with one cheat (pulled on a draw). I was in awe of the guy. He fell three times and still completed it. Nice! Outdoor was as fun as I anticipated--which was very fun. I'm organizing another weekend with two more of my gym buddies and we'll put a kit together between the three of us so we can start going out on our own. Ultimately, I'd like to climb something high. Not sure if 80m+ exists in Vic but I've got a while to skill up and shop around before I decide what to fix in my sites for 18 months down the track. In the meantime I'm going to love browsing the cliffs of Victoria :) |
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11:37:51 AM |
There are HEAPS of easy 80m+ routes at Araps. Seriously, just go there. | |||||
11:41:06 AM |
Thanks for not mentioning that I didn't make it up the 22 too. I'll take ya on a 100m+ next time we head out, ;) | |||||
11:43:25 AM |
On 21/09/2011 shortman wrote: >Thanks for not mentioning that I didn't make it up the 22 too. I'll take >ya on a 100m+ next time we head out, ;) but you failed with such grace... awesome. can't wait :) |
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12:38:03 PM |
No worries ebenweb Meant more as a dig at others - don't worry there are plenty of grade 25 plus climbers who are incapable of meeting the 'ambitiousness' of that climb (which shall not be mentioned) . . . Ambitiousness is such a personal thing anyway - a personal taste - only you know . . . . For me; it is more than just numbers on popular sport routes where difficulty has a simple solution of practice; I prefer it when the general idea seems a tad ridiculous to most but for some reason I 'know' it to be something i want to, and can do . . . You need to find your own . . . Take care MM |
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6:53:30 PM |
82% But in amongst all the post-send spraying, has everyone forgotten that the pre-send spraying involved the idea that Macca was going down to put up a NEW route in the choss? When are we gonna see that Macca? Or is it not part of your "personal ambitiousness/taste" anymore? |
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10:09:03 PM |
Geez, you spurt climbers have weird maths . . . What post-send spraying? And the pre-send stuff was all sandbagging actually . . . We still got some potential projects down there, don't worry . . . Anyway - I am one of the 4 people in the world who have climbed the 'climb that shall not be named', so if you ain't one of the 3 other people who's opinion count, your talking shit . . What have you done on Upper Spurt? |
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11:32:00 PM |
Column 1: Number of times Macca mentions SH in a post Column 2: Number of Macca posts Column 3: Percentage of times Macca mentions SH in a post 80 100 80.00% 81 101 80.20% 82 102 80.39% 83 103 80.58% 84 104 80.77% 85 105 80.95% 86 106 81.13% 87 107 81.31% 88 108 81.48% 89 109 81.65% 90 110 81.82% 91 111 81.98% 92 112 82.14% 93 113 82.30% 94 114 82.46% 95 115 82.61% Macca, the above is math. Wot u say is stoner math. BTW you are converging to 100% |
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11:38:25 PM |
On 21/09/2011 Macciza wrote: >What have you done on Upper Spurt? Nothing, I'm a rock climber. You know the thing in your chocky profile where you tick a box for each style you climb? See the box which says 'overhanging sandy death shit-choss glued together with bird shit'?............I didn't tick that box! So, can you really claim the tick if you only led one pitch? Are you gonna go back and lead the second (crux) pitch? |
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11:50:14 PM |
Except your calculations blissfully ignore the fact that none of the most recent posts have explicitly mentioned any route name involving SandWorms . . . I know I have done the route (even got photos) - Thats all that matters to me . . . Though the idea of you manning up and giving it a shot is certainly interesting . . . Photos please . . . So what's gonna be? Put up or shut up? What was that songs name? oh yeah Yesterdays Hero . . . |
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12:39:46 AM |
On 21/09/2011 Macciza wrote: >Except your calculations blissfully ignore the fact that none of the most >recent posts have explicitly mentioned any route name involving SandWorms >. . . > >I know I have done the route (even got photos) - Thats all that matters >to me . . . >Though the idea of you manning up and giving it a shot is certainly interesting >. . . Photos please . . . >So what's gonna be? Put up or shut up? You are still converging to 100%. I suggest working on the denominator in the equation. Maybe starting a topic on using elephants as crash pads (after you have killed them and sold their ivory) could generate enough interest to get you back to the 60% mark. |
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8:31:14 AM |
On 22/09/2011 useful wrote: >You are still converging to 100%. > >I suggest working on the denominator in the equation. Hmm Where do I start? You clearly accept the fact the route name is not mentioned yet maintain your position?? Converging to 100%?? Even if I made an infinite number of posts mentioning 'The Route In Question' then I can still only asymptotically approach 100% ( but never get there) due to the finite number of posts that do not fit the necessary criteria for inclusion ( like this one). I don't discriminate numerator/denominator - either side works - it's all relative . . . And as you seem so keen on analysis, try this on - I've posted 6 times as many posts as you have, and from what I have seen yours are about 90% useless - I suggest correcting your name . . . |
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9:33:35 AM |
I have a suggestion.If you exchange more than 2 postings which are less than 100%happysmileysexyfun, you have to go to a climb-off. This requires that you both go climbing next weekend and whoever has more fun, wins. There's a prize for second too. |
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4:41:03 PM |
Mikl with all due respect Dunc's the one with the climbing issue with macca. Mine is purely maths related. So Duncan is the one who should go have fun at the crag with Macca. Macca I'm happy to have a fun day of maths with you anytime. Pick any topic you like but for starters we could go with linkages between theoretical physics and the classification of low dimensional surfaces - or "what's a magnetic monopole in a super symmetric yang mills field got to do with classifying four dimensional surfaces?" Bonus question for 100 points - what has the above statement in quotes got to do with climbing? |
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4:53:41 PM |
Probably as much as compactifications of heterotic string theory and F-theory, and topological transitions between Calabi-Yau threefolds | |||||
8:34:03 PM |
On 22/09/2011 davidn wrote: >Calculators at 10 paces!! > >(in other words, every Dilbert cartoon about engineers has just been proven >true) Christ ODH is right - you have no friking idea - engineers have no clue about maths. If you need or own a calculator then you aren't a mathematician. |
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9:15:22 PM |
On 22/09/2011 kieranl wrote: >Probably as much as compactifications of heterotic string theory and F-theory, >and topological transitions between Calabi-Yau threefolds Funny you mention that but I think it is a little different. Historically it was ideas from mathematics, the more mature discipline, that influenced physics. General and special theory of relativity is one well known example - the ideas and concepts of einstein had been tried before by Riemann & others. But unfortunately for Riemann he was restricted by a 3 +1 dimensional view of space time as opposed to a truly 4 dimensional one. Edward Witten's work turned the tables where it was his ideas from physics that ended up having a major influence on mathematics. His (physics) papers are a scream as proofs of long standing mathematical conjectures are often reduced to a footnote. Long and short of it - you miss the point Kman as what you mention is a symbiosis as opposed to a direct influence. |
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10:22:03 PM |
On 22/09/2011 useful wrote: >Mikl with all due respect Dunc's the one with the climbing issue with macca. >Mine is purely maths related. Not really. I think the actual ascent of the route is pretty goddamn badass - it's just the incessant references to it ever since that are retarded. |
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10:34:47 PM |
Sorry U, but I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request for further mathematical discussions ( Pirate for 'no'); I suspect you simply wish to attempt to exploit the asymptotic freedom associated with Yang-Mills. . . . I am more into solving NavierStokes smoothness via manifold-confined Greenian motion . . . At least you are making yourself useful and maths debating by yourself, Have fun and remember to use a helmet for protection . . . |
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10:46:56 PM |
On 22/09/2011 useful wrote: >Long and short of it - you miss the point Kman as what you mention is >a symbiosis as opposed to a direct influence. Not surprising as I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about, just mindlessly parrotting stuff from my niece's husband's web-site. |
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