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lost rope mt araplies on the bard buttress

pullharder

13-Feb-2014
8:11:53 PM

was at the gramps during the fires and got evacuated so decided to go to the raps, we got on the bard but had to bail because it was to hot, we rapped down to the left of the end of the 3rd pitch, we used 2 nuts at bolt plates and a blue chock as a anchor, we had to single the rope and we left it up there whilst we went into horsham for a few days to hide form the heat but when we hot back 2 days later the rope and gear was gone. checked the notice board and asked everyone at the pines but no one said they had seen it.

Miguel75

13-Feb-2014
9:12:55 PM

Sorry to hear your rope was stolen and about your gear at the Gramps. 'Twas a bad few days for a lot of people.

strerror

14-Feb-2014
9:33:23 AM

Sorry to hear you lost your gear, but I'm surprised that you'd think that you could leave gear like that on a oft climbed route for 2 whole days!

IdratherbeclimbingM9

14-Feb-2014
10:00:13 AM

On 13/02/2014 Jason_harper wrote:
>was at the gramps during the fires and got evacuated so decided to go to
>the raps, we got on the bard but had to bail because it was to hot, we
>rapped down to the left of the end of the 3rd pitch, we used 2 nuts at
>bolt plates and a blue chock as a anchor, we had to single the rope and
>we left it up there whilst we went into horsham for a few days to hide
>form the heat but when we hot back 2 days later the rope and gear was gone.
>checked the notice board and asked everyone at the pines but no one said
>they had seen it.

This is disappointing news to hear.
A single rope off an anchor some distance up a climb usually indicates some form of epic has taken place, and under such conditions the old fashioned time-honoured ethic of climbers, is to return the gear to the owners if retrieved, especially if no reasonable time allowance for them to collect it has been given, rather than consider it as booty.
Having said that, it was also considered reasonable that owners of said gear would retrieve it themselves at earliest opportunity if they could...

I note from your Chocky profile that you are aged 16. Assuming that is fair dinkum, then it I imagine the dollars involved for replacement of your gear would be hard to come by.
I find it sad that your first posts to this forum are about its loss, and hopefully you will be reunited with it again, as many other posts here with respect to the 'found'-element (of this portion of Chockstone), testify to the honesty of most climbers.

One Day Hero

14-Feb-2014
11:12:27 AM

I'm having a bit of a chuckle that these guys lost gear on two 26's, a 28.......and a 12?!? If you're working Spurt Girl, how do you have an epic and need to retreat off the Bard? Even if its fifty million degrees, wouldn't you just solo to the top or solo back down?

Wendy

14-Feb-2014
1:31:12 PM

I'm having a bit of a chuckle that 2 different parties decided climbing in the sun in some of the hottest weather I can remember in the Wimmera was a good idea. Maybe we need to put a sticky on the Things to climb in hot weather thread!

I expect you will find a few biners with some melted nylon at the base of the routes and single biners left on the bolts when you can get back in there. And even if they aren't completely melted through, I'd be ditching them! I don't know about the biners themselves - would heat from a fire be an issue for the biners?

IdratherbeclimbingM9

14-Feb-2014
1:53:56 PM

On 14/02/2014 Wendy wrote:
>I expect you will find a few biners with some melted nylon at the base
>of the routes and single biners left on the bolts when you can get back
>in there. And even if they aren't completely melted through, I'd be ditching
>them! I don't know about the biners themselves - would heat from a fire
>be an issue for the biners?

If the fire was as severe as indications seem to suggest, there may well be nothing left if the items were within 3 or 4 metres of flammable bush.

For work once, I had to attend a remote site to check on bushfire damage to infrastructure. Part of it was an aluminium dinghy inside a corrugated iron shed built on a rock slab with nearest combustable at that distance.
All that was left was a trickle of aluminium across the rock and a couple of steel rowlocks under scorched corrugated iron...

Aside from that, I would not trust krabs that had been subjected to the unknown quantity of bushfire heat, even if they appeared to be intact.

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