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31/05/2012 8:56:32 PM
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Dear burnley folk
On the day of the reopening I donated a bunch of holds, bolts and t-nuts (probably 100 and pretty darn good quality) and an old school metolios edgeboard (I'd been in email contact with Jacqui for months beforehand). Turns out that none of the holds have ever been used (the edgeboard is up on the side of wall three though).
In all honesty I gave them under the proviso (and expectation) that they were needed and would get used, and said as much when I donated them. Turns out barely any (if any) are being used on the wall. If they ain't gonna get used I'd like them back, not for the money, but so I can give them to someone that will use them.
I don't wanna be seen as an indian giver but you guys clearly don't want my goods so why hoard them.
Any possibility of getting them back (they'll be shoved into a green 'enviro' shopping bag probably behind wall 2)
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1/06/2012 2:09:28 AM
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Sure. But can you describe them a bit better? I don't remember a green enviro bag, but it might be around. The t-nuts will have been used, I bought some more just recently as I couldn't find any.
Working bee on Saturday, I'll be there most of the day, come by and say hello.
Ben
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1/06/2012 2:35:17 PM
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Really sorry to hear that there are holds going without use at Burnley (besides the ones on those problems I can't do - f#ck those holds). Is it possible to maybe add a few new problems while the bike rack and nice little rubber path are gentrifying the area? Is it an issue of not having people who can set routes? (I can't) What's the barrier to getting some new problems at Burnley?
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1/06/2012 5:53:31 PM
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On 1/06/2012 Will_P wrote:
>Is it an issue of not having
>people who can set routes? (I can't) What's the barrier to getting some
>new problems at Burnley?
On a woody, you don't have to "set routes" to set routes. Just plug the holds onto the wall and people can make up their own routes...........nothing could be simpler
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1/06/2012 6:29:35 PM
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Ok - good chance i'll swing past in the morning. Is there a working bee happening or something? Might be able to lend a hand for an hour or two if so.
Do you look like the cookie monster in real life?
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1/06/2012 6:44:53 PM
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On 1/06/2012 stugang wrote:
>Ok - good chance i'll swing past in the morning. Is there a working bee
>happening or something? Might be able to lend a hand for an hour or two
>if so.
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>Do you look like the cookie monster in real life?
Yes there's a working bee. Ben eats more cookies than the cookie monster ;)
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2/06/2012 4:57:43 PM
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sorry couldn't make it....got dumped with the kids. Hope the working bee went well and what needed to get done got done.
Did you find the holds? When I said enviro bag I meant one of those green things you get at the supermarket, it was pretty much stuffed full of holds (so maybe 100 is pushing it). More specific than that cant really say, not many jugs (if any) random colours and swirls. I bought most of them from garry from tasmania that sells holds on chockstone from time to time.
Anyway dan (aka shorty) is keen on them if you managed to find them.
cheers
stu
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2/06/2012 7:28:38 PM
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On 2/06/2012 stugang wrote:
>sorry couldn't make it....got dumped with the kids. Hope the working bee
>went well and what needed to get done got done.
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>Did you find the holds? When I said enviro bag I meant one of those green
>things you get at the supermarket, it was pretty much stuffed full of holds
>(so maybe 100 is pushing it). More specific than that cant really say,
>not many jugs (if any) random colours and swirls. I bought most of them
>from garry from tasmania that sells holds on chockstone from time to time.
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>Anyway dan (aka shorty) is keen on them if you managed to find them.
>cheers
>stu
M9 bootied them after they were left as an offering to the Burnley God in hope of better route setting.
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4/06/2012 10:49:36 PM
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Working bee was fine thanks, all's well that ends well...
Sorry to report there are no green 'enviro' shopping bags behind the walls, full, empty or otherwise.
On 31/05/2012 Stugang wrote:
>Turns out that none of the holds have ever been used
On 2/06/2012 stugang wrote:
>Did you find the holds? When I said enviro bag I meant one of those green
>things you get at the supermarket, it was pretty much stuffed full of holds
>(so maybe 100 is pushing it). More specific than that cant really say,
>not many jugs (if any) random colours and swirls
Just curious, but if you don't know what they're like, other than they're in a bag, how do you know none have ever been used?
Cheers,
Ben
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5/06/2012 9:33:07 PM
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They were on a woodie in my back yard for a few years - I reckon i'd recognise them if they were all over the wall.
I assumed they were still in the bag (so that should be enough to recognise), as I dropped them off in the morning of the routesetting tied up in the bag. When I came back in the afternoon to drop off the edgeboard, the bag was still sitting unopened on the mat. Also when I spoke to Steve a few days later he confirmed none of the holds had been used on the day (as route setting was so time consuming), however he confirmed they managed to mount the edgeboard.
In any case I did a quick check on the way home tonight and a few have been used (4 or 5). The two triangle holds next to each other a foot or two apart (orange swirled with off-white) on the RH side of wall two, with two matching coloured but different shapes above. Had a quick look around and couldn't see any others of that type set on the wall. I bought them in response to this thread, and 70% of the holds are pretty much a random mix of the small and medium holds from Big red climbing.
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=10&MessageID=3151&Replies=3&PagePos=1380&Sort=LastMessage#NewPost
They weren't bought as a set but rather a random mix from the back of garry's shed, so there aren't enough of a single colour (they were for a woody so I didn't care about colours) to do a traverse, but certainly enough to fill out some of the gaps on the wall with some hard problems (or just to fill the gaps)....and the nice thing is they are small enough not to get in the way of other problems.
The other 30% of the holds were from a different manufacturer (I think affiliated with nunawading gym). Half were all green the other half were all purple. This set had some bigger holds, but in all honesty I didn't really like these compared to the Big Red holds above - they felt too light, flimsy and rough & I had my doubts as to how they'd wear the punishment of Burnley.
After checking old emails i reckon 60 odd holds is more like it.
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5/06/2012 11:46:14 PM
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I should be there Thusday, bit after 6pm or so.
Steve (same Steve?) has been doing some up problems and gap filling, so maybe he started using them?
You'll understand I don't want to give out holds we have bought or other people have donated, and green or purple holds (at least) are likely to have been sorted with others of the same colour... But we can have a rummage around.
Bring a torch. And a green enviro bag.
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6/06/2012 7:43:13 AM
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I had a vision of them collecting dust still cramped up in their little green bag behind the wall; unlooked at, unloved and thought they deserved better than that.
But if they are out of the bag and the gaps are getting filled - then keep them. As I said above they are perfect for that kind of thing.
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