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Lost cam at Watchtower near Halls Gap on Saturday

Catpower

20-Jan-2012
10:27:13 AM

Hi all - I left a Black Diamond C4 Camalot #0.3 about one third of the way up a climb called Beezlebub at Watchtower near Halls Gap last Saturday 14 January. It was very deeply set into a horizontal crack and frustrated, we left it there with the intention of going back the next day (or getting someone else to) to retrieve it. Alas, I received a message from the very kind 'someone else' who offered to look for it earlier this week, that it had gone! Frankly I think that's a bit crap - so if anyone knows anything at all - appreciate if you let me know as it's a relatively new cam and we all know how much it sucks to lose gear. Cheers.


Sonic

20-Jan-2012
10:31:58 AM

Unfortunately for you many climbers consider gear left in that scenario booty.

Good luck getting it back

hipdos

20-Jan-2012
10:37:47 AM

It's not crap, it's booty


Sabu

20-Jan-2012
10:38:17 AM

On 20/01/2012 Catpower wrote:
>Frankly I think that's a bit crap - so if anyone knows anything
>at all - appreciate if you let me know as it's a relatively new cam and
>we all know how much it sucks to lose gear.

Yeah look if you've left it stuck deep in a crack then it will be considered booty by the next climber and rightly so in my opinion. That's just the way things go I'm afraid.
There is always a chance that someone will return it, but I wouldn't expect that to be the norm.


nmonteith

20-Jan-2012
10:42:08 AM

Sounds like the classical definition of booty.

Catpower

20-Jan-2012
11:52:18 AM

Yes I realise the booty I created - can't hurt to ask now though can it? If I found something and then someone posted about it, I think I'd be inclined to return it to them.


nmonteith

20-Jan-2012
12:21:19 PM

You gave up on it because it was too stuck, and now someone else put the effort into getting it out. I know climbers who have built whole racks from spending hours with hammers and other tools retrieving abandoned stuck gear. It's how climbing has worked ever since I started (20 years ago).

Catpower

20-Jan-2012
12:47:27 PM

I get that...annoying if you were intending on having a go yourself but someone got in first


Zarb

20-Jan-2012
12:51:28 PM

I heard about people building entire racks just by visiting Araps after the Easter long weekend and just heading up all the trade routes. Any substance in this? I can't imagine there would be that much stuck gear, let alone that many people visiting to leave it (that being said, I don't know how many people visit over that weekend). I only lost my beloved pink tricam on Dunes. Everything else placed great, and came out fine.

anthonycuskelly

20-Jan-2012
12:51:34 PM

A bit annoying... but then at what point would consider it's fair game? A week? A month? Should we wait until there's a "booty" tag on it?

I hope whoever retrieves any of my stuck gear appreciates it.

Samuel

20-Jan-2012
12:59:44 PM

Good byes are some thing we all have to get used to one day.


Sonic

20-Jan-2012
1:05:55 PM

On 20/01/2012 a.brasington wrote:
>I heard about people building entire racks just by visiting Araps after
>the Easter long weekend and just heading up all the trade routes. Any substance
>in this?

I've done that. Spent a whole tuesday about 4 years ago on the organ pipes and in central gully with my mate and ended up with pretty much a beginners rack between us. We laid it all out on a tarp the following weekend and had a market day (and returned some items to rightful owners) and it paid for booze for the next week. That was one the most fun times I've had at Araps.


Sabu

20-Jan-2012
1:07:27 PM

simey

20-Jan-2012
2:12:49 PM

On 20/01/2012 a.brasington wrote:
>I heard about people building entire racks just by visiting Araps after
>the Easter long weekend and just heading up all the trade routes. Any substance
>in this?

The idea that you can spend the day straight after Easter doddling up trade routes and plucking out stuck gear is simply a crock of shit. Another similar story is how you can walk under Tiger Wall and Bard Buttress after the busy periods and find all manner of gear that has been dropped. Once again I'm afraid to say this is another crock of shit.

But then again, maybe I'm lying...


nmonteith

20-Jan-2012
2:15:56 PM

On 20/01/2012 a.brasington wrote:
>I heard about people building entire racks just by visiting Araps after
>the Easter long weekend (that being said, I don't know how
>many people visit over that weekend).

There can be several hundred people there at Easter. I can easily see how a lot of gear could be left behind.

tskinner

20-Jan-2012
2:31:01 PM

Sounds a bit like a deterrent to me....
Now, now Simon, play nicely. Sharing is caring


Sabu

20-Jan-2012
2:41:50 PM

On 20/01/2012 simey wrote:
>On 20/01/2012 a.brasington wrote:
>>I heard about people building entire racks just by visiting Araps after
>>the Easter long weekend and just heading up all the trade routes. Any
>substance
>>in this?
>
>The idea that you can spend the day straight after Easter doddling up
>trade routes and plucking out stuck gear is simply a crock of shit. Another
>similar story is how you can walk under Tiger Wall and Bard Buttress after
>the busy periods and find all manner of gear that has been dropped. Once
>again I'm afraid to say this is another crock of shit.
>
>But then again, maybe I'm lying...
>

Yea I'm calling bullshit.


Superstu

20-Jan-2012
2:50:01 PM

Yeah Simey is bullshitting cos he doesn't want anybody else in on his little business of collecting dropped and abandoned gear and selling it on ebay, which is funding his new playboy lifestyle of whirlwind overseas climbing trips, fast cars, hot women and crazy drugs.


nmonteith

20-Jan-2012
3:03:04 PM

On 20/01/2012 superstu wrote:
>Yeah Simey is bullshitting cos he doesn't want anybody else in on his little
>business of collecting dropped and abandoned gear and selling it on ebay,
>which is funding his new playboy lifestyle of whirlwind overseas climbing
>trips, fast cars, hot women and crazy drugs.

I thought it was more hot cars, crazy women and fast drugs.


Superstu

20-Jan-2012
3:16:42 PM

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