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Mountain Hardware Splitter 38 Crag Pack
7:01:37 PM
Hi guys,

Looking for a new pack for taking trad gear to the base of climbs. I reckon I've found the one I want, but my problem is that I can't find anywhere that a) has them in stock, or b) will ship to Australia.

So a couple of questions - first do you guys think this looks a good pack? And second, any hints on where I could get one?,default,pd.html

7:55:16 PM

Maybe you should consider doing a course on using the internet.

8:01:34 PM
38L sounds quite small for a trad pack to me.
8:13:13 PM
Thanks for that. Any info on a good course? I'm not sure where to start looking, since I've not done the course yet. ;)

8:17:44 PM
If you are splitting the rack and the rest of the crap, between two, 38L is OK.

I use a 38L Osprey, which is just big enough (I reckon it's actually about 30L)

Next cragging pack I buy will be 45-50L.
8:22:53 PM
Is that factoring in a rope inside the pack, or separate? I'm not planning on keeping the rope in the pack, so hopefully 38L would be enough. Same for the helmet - I'll be hanging that on the outside.

8:28:54 PM
Andy, I don't have any info on the pack you're looking at but I've been using the BD Demon pack, which I think is ~34L. I really like it and can fit a 60m rope, harness, 3L camelback and small rack into it pretty easily. If I want to take more I pull the rack out and carry it over my shoulder. I know Mountain Designs on little Burke have some.

If you're stoked on that MH pack you could check or run a google search...

8:33:55 PM
On 10/04/2011 AndyJS wrote:
>Is that factoring in a rope inside the pack, or separate? I'm not planning
>on keeping the rope in the pack, so hopefully 38L would be enough. Same
>for the helmet - I'll be hanging that on the outside.

If you are hanging the rope and the helmet on the outside, that Mountain Hardware pack will be fine.

9:13:40 PM
I have the Mountain Hardware pack. It has way too many pockets and zippers inside, and it needs to be bigger. It takes forever to pack. Have a look at this instead -

9:33:26 PM
Mate I have one of the Berghaus packs and it's the business. 45 litres is plenty for a good trad rack, 50 metre rope, shoes, bladder, etc and it has handy gear loops on the hip belt. Took me ages to find the "emergency whistle" though.

(Now I've looked Bivouac are out of stock, but there's places in the UK that do them)
3:59:18 PM
There is also someone selling a new one on e-bay if you're still keen on the MH Splitter. It's from 'Outdoor Pursuits AUS' and buy it now for $200 or best offer. It does look slightly different to the one you've linked though.

(Hope this helps & doesn't count as spam =)



12:08:39 AM
I can also vouch for the BD demon - Awesome pack! Just keeps going and going. I've just upgraded my bag for the new Innova 50lt - with the new harness system. The hipbelt is awesome, moves with me as I move - You may not have this problem, but due to the tilt of my hips bags always rise up and sit in the small of my back, and we can't have that!!

The only criticism with the Innova is that the fabric feels thin - now I don't know how durable it is just yet, but the Demon has been amazing in multiple countries(travelling) and multiple trips.

Also, please buy local - The Price of Black Diamond in Australia has come down SO MUCH, the supplier is trying to do the best buy us- so lets do the best by them!!

9:08:50 AM
funnily enough, i have an MH "Trad" pack - around 45L i believe. Has a couple of pockets inside (one big enough for, maybe even designed for, a camel back) and some webbing bits on the outside which are a bit dicky, but overall it's great. I can take a rope, big trad rack, harness and shoes, but with only a little room left for maybe a fleece, some food and a water bottle. problem for those that don't have a camel back water supply is that there are no external pockets, so when walking a distance you have to be stopping to get the bottle out (which i tend to avoid, thus end up dehydrated!).
Anyway, good pack in my opinion, happy with the purchase and I got it from

10:00:18 AM
I use a Macpac Pursuit - heaps of room 'cause I'm a scruncher, not a folder.

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