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Grigri 2?
gfdonc
20/07/2010
4:16:35 PM
On 13/07/2010 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote (on a distant thread):
>Awsome story, lets fire up the ol' "Gri Gris are crap belay devices" debate,
>that will be good for a laugh.

OK, but just before we go too far with that ..

http://www.petzl.com/en/video/grigri2
http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2364032;

"Ha ha Bill, caught you with your pants down"
"It's not Bill, it's Bob"
(brownie points for identifying the quote)
scarecrow
20/07/2010
5:12:31 PM
Looks cool - pretty similar...I spose they didn't need to change much but felt like making a whole lot more money!
I might get one, though at the moment don't even own a grigri 1. I wonder if the price of the original will drop when its successor comes out?
Duncan
20/07/2010
6:38:46 PM
I thought the issue with grigri's was that they were too easy to thread the wrong way if you weren't paying attention. It doesn't look like the new one has changed that. In fact apart from the fact that it's good to go on 8.9-11mm ropes, it doesn't look that different at all.

Climbau
20/07/2010
8:35:22 PM
Sorry Duncan, but in my humble opinion the issues with grigri's is only that people think it is an auto-locking device as opposed to an assisted braking device. Then they switch their brain off and expect the device to look after itself.
I have always thought the two sets of pictures on the body were quite clear and self-explanatory plus a comprehensive set of instructions come with the device plus videos on the website plus you can download new instructions if needed. I'm quite happy with smaller and lighter being the only changes.
paul
20/07/2010
9:47:26 PM
I would like to see someone design a assisted locking device like the gri gri or eddy which can be used with double ropes.
Duncan
20/07/2010
10:14:41 PM
Well I've never threaded my grigri the wrong way, but I do know that that was the cause of at least one of the accidents at SICG that led to them being banned.

voodoo
20/07/2010
10:23:10 PM
As long as you get in the habit of giving the climber-end of the rope a tug to make sure it locks before they leave the ground it doesn't matter if you absent mindedly thread it the wrong way - it is easily picked up before it becomes an issue.

And climbers who are belayed by grigri should really insist that their belayers perform this simple check every time they go to declare 'on belay'.
kieranl
20/07/2010
10:32:21 PM
On 20/07/2010 gfdonc wrote:

>"Ha ha Bill, caught you with your pants down"
>"It's not Bill, it's Bob"
>(brownie points for identifying the quote)
>
Tandberg cartoon after Malcolm Fraser called the 1983 election only to find that Bob Hawke had replaced Bill Hayden as Labour leader while Fraser was at Government House.
gfdonc
20/07/2010
10:43:37 PM
Correct. Followed by a caricature of Fraser with his pants down. Best political cartoon of all time.
dalai
20/07/2010
11:18:14 PM
On 20/07/2010 voodoo wrote:
>As long as you get in the habit of giving the climber-end of the rope a
>tug to make sure it locks before they leave the ground it doesn't matter
>if you absent mindedly thread it the wrong way - it is easily picked up
>before it becomes an issue.

Agreed! I always did a pyhsical test of the rope in the grigri prior to the climber setting off with the mantra I would say out loud 'you're the man' giving the rope to the climber a quick tug to confirm the cam would lock and 'I'm the hand' signified by the symbols etched on the side.

cliffhanger
21/01/2011
7:53:09 PM
and of course, as the proverbial commercial user of the grigri, you can buy a grigri2 from us on Monday 24/1/2011, online at OutdoorGearStore.com.au over the weekend (sorry not really retail spam) or better still... (with a totally non commercial option) ...

we have a preview and use night, being run by Spelean, the distributor of Petzl, on 15/2 between 6pm and 8pm where you can play with them on top rope or lead (*subject to your Cliffhanger belay check).

All attendees at the launch go in the draw to win a free one! Even chockstone users surely couldn't knock a freebie, no matter what your opinion of them!!!

Let the debate continue!

cheers,

Tim

Miguel75
21/01/2011
8:40:05 PM
They're smaller and prettier than the original and I have it on good authority they taste good too.

climbau
21/01/2011
9:00:47 PM
Mmmmmm, Oh so sweet!
Better control when lowering, gooderer in the hand (big hands? no problemo. Little tiny hands? no problemo), fit in your pocket go anywhere styling, your choice of colour (as long as it is grey, orange, or blue), and nice little pictures!

Miguel75
22/01/2011
1:11:18 AM
On 21/01/2011 climbau wrote:
>Mmmmmm, Oh so sweet!
>Better control when lowering, gooderer in the hand (big hands? no problemo.
>Little tiny hands? no problemo), fit in your pocket go anywhere styling,
>your choice of colour (as long as it is grey, orange, or blue), and nice
>little pictures!
>

I'm lucky, my hands are asymmetrical one small and one large. I have plenty of pockets and really like orange; it's a match made in heaven.

Climbau
22/01/2011
7:51:47 AM
What flavours would the colours be though Miguel75?
Obviously the orange one would be .... Well, orange flavoured. Blue could be berry slurpee flavoured, but what would grey be?

Miguel75
22/01/2011
9:58:47 AM
Snozzberrys?

garbie
22/01/2011
4:27:02 PM
If you're in Sydney, you can test them out at our demo night on Tuesday 1st Feb (run by Spelean). We'll also be selling them, getting stock next week some time, I'll keep you posted.

For those of you wondering, we have "unbanned" GriGris (old or new version) at Villawood for a trial period. All "assisted breaking" devices are allowed.

The idea is to give people a chance to use them, but we'll be strict on technique - we'll be insisting on either of Petzl's "approved" methods (see their website) or you'll be asked (nicely of course!) to use them properly or not at all. This goes for all belay devices - they must be used per the manufacturer's recommendations - including approved rope size.

Please don't have an accident using one, its going to make me look stupid for lifting the ban. That method of tugging on the rope before climbing is an excellent idea, I do it all the time to check my belayer has threaded the device OK, and we'll encourage people to do it, at least while they're at the gym.

My impression of the GriGri 2 in the 10 min I used one was that it feeds a bit better than the old one, and its lighter.

Mike/SICG Villawood
bl@ke
22/01/2011
10:10:33 PM
On 22/01/2011 Miguel75 wrote:
>Snozzberrys? Taste like snozzberrys?

Miguel75
23/01/2011
12:47:37 AM
On 22/01/2011 bl@ke wrote:
>>Snozzberrys? Taste like snozzberrys?

You know they're really good when the Snozzberrys actually taste like Snozzberrys...

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