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QUT and affiliates sued for $8m Kangaroo Point 31-May-2017 At 6:19:38 PM Wendy

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On 30/05/2017 rightarmbad wrote:

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>KP is a circus of noise and distractions.
>Habits can lead you astray.
>If they were up there and their usual thing is to clean and lower, then
>they might certainly get distracted by another in the group, chat whilst
>they work and forget that they had changed their descending strategy.
>Especially younger flirtatious year olds.

So maybe there needs to be some teaching of the seriousness of what they are doing and not getting distracted - Chrispy has a long list of stories of experienced climbers failing to finish tieing in and having near misses which can remind all of us that if we are distracted (which we should really try to avoid in the first place) in the midst of doing something, we should recheck before committing to going on.

Hell, I recheck stuff all over the place out of an oversized paranoia gland. And if I realise i've been chatting with someone whilst tying their knot or rethreading, I'll apologise for distracting them and ask them if everything is still OK.

When I'm clipping bolts and lowering, i don't check if i'm still on belay, because there hasn't been any pause between my climbing and lowering. I just say got me, on you or even god forbid take. If I have been rethreading or otherwise faffing with the anchor, i'll say the same again and expect a verbal response, but I rarely stay clipped in until I have weighted the rope.

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>In relation to the criticism of older people hanging around UNI clubs,
>bloody hell, they are short staffed with eyes, leadership and competency
>already, you should be encouraging older folk to join in and mentor as
>much as possible.
>More experienced eyes may spot trouble brewing before accidents happen.
>Also suggest and help implement better teaching and testing competency.
>
>Just because your head is twisted with sexual predator bias doesn't mean
>that a 30, 40 or 50 YO wants to get in every 22 YO girls pants.
>Ever thought that they may enjoy passing on what they know?
>Or enjoy the company of younger folks when a lot of their peers simply
>don't do or understand more adventurous activities?

Probably because I know multiple middle aged men who freely admit to their motivation. To be perfectly honest, I'm not that sold on their instructing skills either.

And Andrew's example is just terrifying. Unfortunately, it's not the first time i've heard of this and the message can't be getting through to these gyms if they are still teaching it. I would have thought there were some standards gyms had to comply to???