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Fatality at Arapiles 11/11/14 12-Nov-2014 At 12:50:05 PM Sabu
On 12/11/2014 gfdonc wrote:
>No speculation here but I wanted to add my 2c worth.
>Firstly, I think Mark Doman deserves a little more respect. He's a reporter
>who put an article together and considered it of relevance to create a
>post here. I heard the news report on the radio at 6pm last night (at
>which point it was not being reported as a fatality) and of course was
>checking Chockstone this morning for updates.
>Mark has posted under a login using his own name and posted a link to
>the story under his byline. When queried about any link he responded promptly.
>Yes we've seen activities by reporters on this (and other?) public forums
>that does not meet what we consider to be ethical standards but I don't
>see any evidence of that here. So a fair go is warranted.
>Secondly, my sympathies to those involved and affected by the tragedy.
> Someone has lost their partner, their friend, their son through a tragic
>accident. They have my thoughts and the respect of (if I can speak on
>behalf of all) the members of this forum during their grieving process.
>Thirdly, the climbing community is always thirsty for information about
>how this accident occurred so we can learn from it and be safer. In many
>other contexts this would be seen as morbid curiousity, but our concept
>of personal risk is so inherent to our participation that we have a direct
>and relevant interest. We rely on the discretion of those who know what
>happened to come forward with details when they can manage it. Mostly
>we have been blessed by their contributions, in time, but publication of
>any details is a generous gift, not an expectation.
>Fourthly, and from a more practical perspective - from what details we
>have this was an accident during a descent in King Rat Gully. Without
>knowing more details I withhold any further speculation but of course I
>have a picture in my mind. The point I want to make is that at Arapiles
>there are dozens of descents that have been done hundreds if not thousands
>of times that have potential to cause accidents. My comment is, while
>we may have put up with some of these situations for decades with the assumption
>that they're 'par for the course', isn't it timely to reconsider them?
> The descent off the Organ Pipes, Yesterday Gully and of course King Rat
>come to mind

For the record, the thread title was changed (by a mod presumably since Mark has not logged in again) since appearing last night. The original title was seeking information in relation to this incident, hence the responses of some earlier posters. Otherwise very eloquently put gfdonc.

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