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Cert II climbing at Mt York


jay590

27-Apr-2009
3:42:12 PM

Last week I had a 3 day camp at mt york for a cert II in climbing and abseiling. It rained
2 out of 3 days so we were climbing at the TAFE gym for most of the time but on the
third day we got out to mt york to climb at last.They set up 2 climbs, crackle (16) and
pop(13) I got on to the crackle first and got up it first go. Was so happy it was the
highest grade i have climbed i didn't even find it too hard which i was very surprised at
because the highest grade before that i had climbed was 13. Anyway had agreat time
and can't wait till the next camp in july.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

27-Apr-2009
5:01:36 PM

Good climb eh!
There are many who would have done this as one of their early climbs, and some that perhaps it will remain as their only climb!

>They set up 2 climbs

Do you get introduced to lead climbing or only top-rope?

Cert II. Is this the high school interchange specific unit/hrs thing, or the dedicated 10 day x two blocks Tafe thing?

I note they teach specific units for abseiling as 18 hr course and climbing as a 40 hour course, all being part of Outdoor Recreation Certificate.
Once completed have you given thought to where you intend to go with this?


jay590

27-Apr-2009
5:33:29 PM

It was setup as toprope. And it is through school (TVET). Once i've completed this
course I was thinking off doing cert III at the end of the year oce i have my preliminary
certificate from school, so i can go do outdoor guiding because i would love a career in
this sort of thing.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

27-Apr-2009
5:40:40 PM

Sounds good.
By the way, if you enjoyed Crackle as a toprope, you will probably enjoy it even more as a lead climb.

It was a shame it rained and you ended up doing more gym instead of outdoor time, as you had hoped/anticipated.


jay590

27-Apr-2009
5:42:42 PM

i really want to learn to lead but don't have anyone to learn from


IdratherbeclimbingM9

27-Apr-2009
5:47:09 PM

If you have had no luck with Climbing Clubs for a mentor or have difficulty attending a gym to enhance partner networks, have you considered your local Scout Association?


jay590

27-Apr-2009
5:53:46 PM

i can't join clubs quite yet i've got 8 months to go. But i'm going to start going to the
gym more often.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

27-Apr-2009
6:02:58 PM

Climbing training sounds like the go for the next 8 months then.
Get out as often as possible on real rock be it bouldering or even 'buildering' (climbing ~ usually traverses, on man made structures like bluestone walls etc), ...~> pity Kurrajong does not have the equivalent of the Burnley Wall. Another alternative is to build a woodie at home.


jay590

27-Apr-2009
6:33:04 PM

I can do bouldering down at the creek down the back of kurrajong. Its like a 10 minute
walk from my house. I'll have to start going down there more.


Paulie

27-Apr-2009
9:47:23 PM

Funny that, the 1st time I did those routes it was literally torrentially raining but the friction was so superb that it didn't matter one bit!

rod

28-Apr-2009
2:30:14 AM

Jay590 order and read Jerry Moffatt, Revelations you've got the stoke to relate to it big time. I've just read it twice in a few weeks: sport climbing/bouldering porn at its best.

surfinclimb

29-Apr-2009
10:23:13 AM

Thats pretty cool that you know what you want to do for work when you leave school. I had no idea. Just remember that the outdoor guiding/ education industry has a very high turnover rate for staff. Most staff (approx 85%) only stay for 2 years then move on to another career due to the lack of social life, unsteady income, long days (consistently 14 hr days) and poor pay rates. As a challenge go and find someone who is still consistently working in the field after 3 years and talk to them about it.
The GREAT part about the job is that you get to work outdoors ( A new office everyday), you meet awesome people, have large amounts of time to travel in the off season and your Australian skills and Quals are well respected the world over (everyone loves an Aussie) This can have you raft guiding in Canada on the Ottawa river, Guiding at Zion or Joshua tree in the States, Leading treks through Peru,sea kayaking on Fitzroy island or any other great activity in the world.


jay590

29-Apr-2009
7:40:01 PM

I knew that pay wasn't good but thats not why i want to do it. I want to do it so i can be
out there doing what i want, and meeting lots of people


IdratherbeclimbingM9

30-Apr-2009
10:17:35 AM

On 29/04/2009 jay590 wrote:
>I knew that pay wasn't good but thats not why i want to do it. I want to
>do it so i can be out there doing what i want, and meeting lots of people

... some of whom might fit into this cross-link item I think appropriate;
~> On 28/04/2009 dmnz wrote: regarding 'Belayers Behaving Badly' - thread.
>just think of it as soloing or guiding (soloing with someone trying to pull you off)
>but yes, as johnnie walker says 'keep walking'.
☺

30-Apr-2009
11:10:02 AM

On 29/04/2009 jay590 wrote:
>I want to do it so i can be out there doing what i want, and meeting lots of people

Which is fine if your idea of climbing is to climb the same old crappy grade 8 route 400 times, probably facing a groundfall because you have an incompetent bumbly belayer, and then belaying said bumbly for hours as they thrash their way up it. personally i can't think of anything worse!

bl@ke

30-Apr-2009
6:26:45 PM

Dont get a job. just live off what you find in bins :)

bukkakedojo

30-Apr-2009
6:32:30 PM

.
>>just think of it as soloing or guiding (soloing with someone trying to
>pull you off)

Who says guiding doesn't have its benefits!!!

surfinclimb

30-Apr-2009
9:02:19 PM

On 30/04/2009 WM wrote:
>Which is fine if your idea of climbing is to climb the same old crappy
>grade 8 route 400 times, probably facing a groundfall because you have
>an incompetent bumbly belayer, and then belaying said bumbly for hours
>as they thrash their way up it. personally i can't think of anything worse!

I guess thats part of the skill requirement to being a GOOD guide, in any activity. Not everyone has the patience to deal with beginner climbers, paddlers etc.
I would be embarresed if I as a guide couldn't climb a gr8 and be so far out of my depth that I have the fear of a groundfall. Its also a much better altenative to dumpster diving.
As for not being able to think of anything worse you probably haven't worked as a mechanic, truck driver, office worker etc. That sort of work is truly soul destroying.


foreverabumbly

5-May-2009
6:29:00 PM

if your interested in being a guide, or working in the outdoors after high school then you could try the Outdoor Education degree at Latrobe in Bendigo, you can pick climbing as a major and learn how to lead, and guide, there.


jkane

7-May-2009
2:46:14 PM

>On 30/04/2009 surfinclimb wrote:
>office worker etc. That sort of work
>is truly soul destroying.

Thanks for reminding me.

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