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Ozymandias trip report (on Supertopo)... 31-Mar-2017 At 8:51:14 PM IdratherbeclimbingM9

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On 31/03/2017 Andrew_M wrote:
>On 30/03/2017 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>>
>>In this respect the fact it was originally given M4 (5??) and has 'settled'
>to M3, yet only gets C3 from our distinguished deuce4
>
>Just trying to get my head around what you're saying here. Are you saying
>he's downgraded it?In the TR he rates it C2+/C3. You're the expert with
>different ratings systems, but doesn't C3 = A3 (clean) = ~M6??

OK; I have now done my homework, and I was wrong about Ozy settling to Gd M3...

Ozymandias originally done 18/20 Oct 1969 and given Gd?
Ozymandias Direct originally done 30/31 Jan 1972 and given Gd?

Mt Buffalo Guide: Peter Watling - 1976
Ozymandias Gd 14, M5
Ozymandias Direct Gd M4

Current Mt Buffalo Guide: Lindorff / Murray - 2006
Ozymandias Gd M4
Ozymandias Direct Gd M4

... Also from the current Mt Buffalo Guide (2006) Gd M4 = A2 as a (subjective?) conversion, according to the table therein...

~> Make of it what you will; but I am of the opinion that deuce4 has downgraded it by calling it C3, as in my opinion 'C' grades are generally harder than the original USA 'A' grades and I was of the belief that Ozy/Direct generally equated to A3 for grade (but am not sure at this present time where I got that opinion from!!, though an old article in Rock Magazine on Ozy rings vague memory bells...).
So, ... and if the Lindorff/Murray conversion (again subjective) of M4=A2 is correct... then I am obviously wrong.

Note: deuce4 - March 2017 assessment of Ozy Direct at Gd C3 does = A2+ = M5 (2006 Mt Buffalo Guide conversion table), ... so we are probably discussing the difference between one bees knees and anothers!
Heh, heh, heh.