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Climbing banned Centennial Trev Blue Mtns - NPWS 5-May-2015 At 6:58:26 PM Olbert

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I think the strongest bolt removal argument boils down to this:

NPWS manages the area and all national parks in NSW. It has the power to ban climbing.

NPWS are ok with some climbing, including sport climbing and new development, in the Blue Mountains.

Local climbers have a good relationship with NPWS.

NPWS have decided (rightly or wrongly) that the bolting here is bad and they have banned climbing altogether.

Other users of the area also do bad things (bring dogs, shit in the bush, create tracks, etc) but this is a distraction - we don't care if other uses are banned - we care about climbing.

If we remove the bolts, any further damage to the NPWS will be negated. Further climbing in the area will be very limited and not noticed.

If we don't remove the bolts, it may become a sore spot for the NPWS as they asked for them to be removed. Further climbers, knowingly or unknowingly, will climb there which will further damage the relationship.

The risk is that NPWS will be more likely to make decisions climbers don't like because of this. The risk mitigation is removal of bolts.

Good risk management, good stakeholder management and just not being a dick says remove the bolts!