17 Down Under:
17 DOWN UNDER. "A celebration of moderate grade climbing in Victoria". 184 pages. 285 images. Father & son team, Steve & John Morris, embark on a journey to climb and photograph 50 of the best rock climbs in Victoria, grade 17 & under. Inc bookmark $50.00
was there in 03 but seems that a lot has changed since then... im sure Neil Monteith posted a bunch of stuff on here a while back (the search btn is your friend) & there may have even been an article in Crux about it?
On 3/12/2009 travelguy wrote:
>I plan to go to Ha Long bay with a climbing partner. Is it easy to find
>routes without hiring the local guides (slopony)?
Not really. You don't have to be 'guided' by them - just pop in and ask for directions. They'll be happy to give you the beta. The main crag (Butterfly Wall) on on semi-private land so it's best not to just rock up un-announced. It's a communist country and land 'ownership' it a contentious concept. There have been access problems this year - it was closed for several months.
>How many good sport routes are there (not including bouldering or DWS)?
>are there many good routes away from Cat Ba?
About 30 or so good routes on Cat Ba itself - then a handful (20?) or climbale un-rusting routes out on the islands.
Do a search for 'vietnam' on these forums and you'll find more info