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Grampians Restricted Climbing Areas???
lad
26/03/2010
7:51:21 PM
Hi, for uni im doing an assignment about land use and management in the Grampians National Park, and how it affects climbers.

Here are a few questions that would help me out if anyone is interested in answering them.
- Does any one know of any areas that are restricted in the Grampians?
- Are there any specified climbs in any of the quarries or has anyone climbed in them? If yes, what and where?
- Do aboriginal rock art sites affect where you are able to climb?

Any answers that I get will be treated anonymously if i use them in my assignment.

If you have any info that loosely fits this topic it would be much appreciated.

Cheers, Lewis

JamesMc
26/03/2010
8:40:43 PM
Lewis,
As far as I'm aware, the only areas in the Gramps where climbing is prohibited is in reference areas where general public access is prohibited. The only recognised climbing area affected is the left end of Liomin Castle.

There are examples of climbing prohibition in other Victorian National Parks, the most important being Tongue Point at Wilsons Prom. While not a National Park, the prohbition on climbing at Hanging Rock is also a major concern as this was one of the birth places of Victorian climbing.

JamesMc
jgoding
27/03/2010
10:07:53 AM
The area of Eastern Walls, Peking Walls etc is closed due to rock wallaby relocation to this area a few years ago. This area is just south of Bundaleer, and can be seen clearly from the top of Rosea if you look due south (a nice long line of cliffs running pretty much east west).

There are some notices posted up at Bundaleer as well which ask climbers to respect the Indigenous communities artwork and heritage by sticking to the board walk (under the route "Manic Depressive")

The other person to check in with would be Sylvia Van Der Peet - one of the Parks Rangers. Her e-mail is svanderp@parks.vic.gov.au

Good luck with your project.
Access T CliffCare
27/03/2010
10:49:29 AM
Hi Lewis,

The previous posts have pretty much mentioned most of the restricted areas in the Grampians. And the cultural heritage site that is under the route Manic Depressive. You can find relevant information about access status of cliffs on the cliffcare page of the VCC website
http://www.vicclimb.org.au/index.php?location=cliffCare
If you have any further queries you can drop me a line at cliffcare@vicclimb.org.au

Sylvia Van der Peet, who was our liason ranger at Grampians NP is no longer working there.

Cheers,

Tracey

lad
27/03/2010
4:24:33 PM
THanks for your input. This should be enough information for me. I found the cliff care page after I posted this, it was very helpful.

Cheers, Lewis

JamesMc
28/03/2010
9:03:12 PM
On 27/03/2010 jgoding wrote:
>The area of Eastern Walls, Peking Walls etc is closed due to rock wallaby
>relocation to this area a few years ago. This area is just south of Bundaleer,
>and can be seen clearly from the top of Rosea if you look due south (a
>nice long line of cliffs running pretty much east west).

Is access to this area actually prohibited? I thought the road was closed, that's all.
(ie if you walk in you're OK)

JamesMc

foreverabumbly
28/03/2010
9:15:04 PM
hey Lewis, if this is for second year and if Phil is marking them again a good idea is to email him and ask him what he would include. He marks pretty harshly.
kieranl
28/03/2010
9:59:40 PM
On 28/03/2010 JamesMc wrote:

>Is access to this area actually prohibited? I thought the road was closed,
>that's all.
>(ie if you walk in you're OK)
>
>JamesMc
I believe that all access is banned including walking to avoid disturbing the wallabies.

ajfclark
28/03/2010
10:04:11 PM
On 28/03/2010 JamesMc wrote:
>Is access to this area actually prohibited? I thought the road was closed, that's all.

The release area map says access to the area outlined is prohibited. Also on the cliffcare site is this note: "In the case of some of the Central Grampians cliffs, these areas have been temporarily closed due to the release of the endangered Brush tailed Rock Wallaby"

There used to be a bunch of stuff about this on the cliffcare site, perhaps Tracey can fill in the blanks?

ajfclark
28/03/2010
10:05:52 PM
Here's the thread from around the time of the release: http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=65117&Replies=1
Access T CliffCare
31/03/2010
11:04:13 PM
On 28/03/2010 JamesMc wrote:
>On 27/03/2010 jgoding wrote:
>>The area of Eastern Walls, Peking Walls etc is closed due to rock wallaby
>>relocation to this area a few years ago. This area is just south of Bundaleer,
>>and can be seen clearly from the top of Rosea if you look due south (a
>>nice long line of cliffs running pretty much east west).
>
>Is access to this area actually prohibited? I thought the road was closed,
>that's all.
>(ie if you walk in you're OK)
>
>JamesMc

Hi James,

Access to the area, in all forms, ie walking, driving, climbing is off limits. As mentioned by Kieran, it is to give the wallabies the best chance.
I did have quite a lot of info on the CliffCare page although it doesn't seem to be there now.
Possibly when I was tidying up some scattered information, I tidied it up a little too much! The new CliffCare site will have all of this info.

cheers,

Tracey
Wendy
1/04/2010
10:44:26 AM
On 26/03/2010 lad wrote:
>Hi, for uni im doing an assignment about land use and management in the
>Grampians National Park, and how it affects climbers.
>
I really don't think chockstone is a suitable academic reference ....

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/04/2010
10:53:24 AM
On 1/04/2010 Wendy wrote:
>I really don't think chockstone is a suitable academic reference ....

Blasphemy! Wash your mouth out with soap young Wendy!! Why Chockstone is full of-
Oh, hmmm, yes, well, perhaps you are right...
;-)
Wendy
1/04/2010
11:03:14 AM
On 1/04/2010 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 1/04/2010 Wendy wrote:
>>I really don't think chockstone is a suitable academic reference ....
>
>Blasphemy! Wash your mouth out with soap young Wendy!! Why Chockstone
>is full of-
>Oh, hmmm, yes, well, perhaps you are right...
>;-)

You could classify it as "peer reviewed" though
kieranl
1/04/2010
11:55:58 AM
"Peer viewed" anyway

nat
6/04/2010
1:34:11 PM
no access to Western bloc and surrounding area (gate closed on moora track/ rosea track) due to reintroduction of the brush tailed rock wallaby in this area

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