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Gilgamesh FFA

Lee C

28-Oct-2008
11:25:53 AM

This morning Gilgamesh finally saw its first ascent. After 5 days over 2 trips Ben Cossey managed to
send it, just.


Macciza

28-Oct-2008
11:37:50 AM

Awesome effort - I recall lot's of lobbing etc earlier in the year, and the second cruxy bit looked hard . . .
I guess he'll be up for something on Upper Spurt Wall soon . . .


foreverabumbly

28-Oct-2008
11:39:47 AM

nice work, I like the 'just' bit - it reminds me of pretty much all the climbs I have finished


IdratherbeclimbingM9

28-Oct-2008
11:55:18 AM

Excellent effort/news.

Well done Ben (and supportive/patient belayer!).

~> Rock on Australian climbing!

simey

28-Oct-2008
12:10:15 PM

Nice work. Another 'last great problem' bites the dust.

By the way, do you guys know anything about the new bolts leading into Pegasus? Is it possible, or just wishful thinking?

ademmert

28-Oct-2008
12:39:39 PM

Brilliant work on an awesome line! Nicely done!

On 28/10/2008 simey wrote:
>Nice work. Another 'last great problem' bites the dust.

Last great problems? I don't think so!

Maybe some of tiapans problems will go now?!

ademmert

28-Oct-2008
12:40:22 PM

Ps is there a Grade???

dalai

28-Oct-2008
12:46:16 PM

Great news Lee! Thanks for posting...

simey

28-Oct-2008
12:57:29 PM

On 28/10/2008 ademmert wrote:
>On 28/10/2008 simey wrote:
>>Nice work. Another 'last great problem' bites the dust.
>
>Last great problems? I don't think so!
>
>Maybe some of tiapans problems will go now?!

Although there was never any doubt that Gilgamesh would go free, it has been more than 15 years since it was first attempted. In that time it has become one of the most widely publicised lines yet to be freed. I think that qualifies it for 'last great problem' status, just like the many other 'last great problems' that have been free-climbed over the years.

ademmert

28-Oct-2008
1:07:48 PM

>Although there was never any doubt that Gilgamesh would go free, it has
>been more than 15 years since it was first attempted. In that time it has
>become one of the most widely publicised lines yet to be freed. I think
>that qualifies it for 'last great problem' status, just like the many other
>'last great problems' that have been free-climbed over the years.
>

I Think it qualifies it as a great problem, in fact i think it is exceptional problem, but maybe just not last as there are still many to go
maybe I'm just being pedantic

simey

28-Oct-2008
1:19:10 PM

There's never been a shortage of 'last great problems'. The term gets thrown around a bit (particularly by guidebook editors).

Lee C

28-Oct-2008
1:19:47 PM

No grade as yet aside from "pretty tricky"

I'm guilty of being pedantic at times too and struggle to use the term 'Last Great Problem' without adding
'of this generation', which I too think Gilgamesh is totally worthy of.


westie

28-Oct-2008
1:21:26 PM

On 28/10/2008 ademmert wrote:
>Ps is there a Grade???

exactly! whats the word? 33?

ademmert

28-Oct-2008
1:25:11 PM

On 28/10/2008 Lee C wrote:
>No grade as yet aside from "pretty tricky"

That awesome garde of pretty tricky, I love thate grade! but i think it looked more like Hard Very Tricky or HVT!

Any Pic's??


muki

28-Oct-2008
1:25:34 PM

I think that the word "last" is the problem, it's too much like the glass ceiling imposed on the US climbing
grades... 5-10, the 10 being last possible grade humanly climbable! It now stands at 5-15b it wont be the
"last" step up the grading ladder either! with perceptions of what is humanly possible constantly
changing, then last is an outdated term, only applicable with limited vision of what is in fact possible.
Just my two cents worth. BP


muki

28-Oct-2008
1:28:04 PM

Oh and good work! that's an awesome achievement, good to see another of the "great" problems go free.


Chuck Norris

28-Oct-2008
1:41:41 PM

Well done - though it feels a bit strange to have a genuine climbing achievement discussed here.

Now to the real business of chockstone....with the real-time reporting of this achievement it certainly is
the 'last great problem freed'. That is until the next one gets done, upon which it will become 'the second-
last great problem freed'


Robb

28-Oct-2008
1:54:40 PM

just to clarify - no one actually said it was THE last great problem. simply that it was one of the many last great problemS.
well done

JakeB

28-Oct-2008
2:17:50 PM

"A King Line, freed!"

many more to come, way to go BC!!


phil_nev

28-Oct-2008
3:02:30 PM

Farrkin sick!!! Rad work Ben, keep it up.

Looking forward to hearing about Nether going down! :)

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