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Removing bolts to create trad paradise 5-May-2007 At 5:57:35 PM Dom

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Neil - If it really was someone else suggesting that Rosea be cleaned then perhaps you could encourage this person to come forward.

I share the concern of some other people on this forum surrounding tit for tat bolting. I've only been climbing for 9 years but heard plenty of tales of people getting involved in this kind of activity. Its easy to see why it happens when reading Kieran’s posts, these aren't just lines up rock formations to people like him (all FA's?), these are material reminders of good times. Never underestimate the importance of ego when you're post on this topic either. Simon made a point about sacrificing routes for the good of the vibe of the cliff but opinions will polarise over this issue I'm sure.

However, I disagree with Neil and Simon. People haven't gone nuts at Araps and it has very much the same ethic as the rest of our 'trad' crags - make it safe but don't go bananas. So I can't see that leaving existing bolts in place will be seen as an invitation to the sports climbers and grid bolters of the future.

Its time to hear from this friend of yours Neil. Maybe a few choice words from the man of the moment could turn the tide for you and simey :)