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14-Oct-2005 10:03:57 AM
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I’m off to climb Where Angeles Fear to Tread this weekend and am looking for any useful information from people who have done it before or climb at Buffalo allot. I have the guide book (worst guide I’ve ever spent money on) and have read the description on this site. Is Angeles hard to find? Will I need my #4 Cam? Any beta (or bullsh*t) would be helpful. I know it’ll be cold and granite is scary so please keep the negativity.
Also, what else is a must do at Buffalo. I’ve been to the Horn and Cathedral but I love long routes. Any recommendations at the Gorge? What about that cool crag Wonderland by the Horn. I heard there are allot of new routes there, It’d be nice do some cragging. Is a there a good bouldering area? I don’t want any fingerprints come Monday!!!
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14-Oct-2005 10:38:48 AM
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Don't be a wus and take Beta - go the on-sight.
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14-Oct-2005 10:40:46 AM
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Angels is not too hard to find. The biggest mistake people make is starting up one crack too far to the right.
This link to the Buffalo guide teaser may help . http://www.vicclimb.org.au/media/documents/general/BuffaloGuideSample.pdf . It has a slightly better diagram.
Also look at the guide stuff here on Chockstone http://www.chockstone.org/MtBuffalo/Gorge/Gorge.htm
and Wills pages http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/9987/buffalo_gorge.htm
Yes you'll need a #4 Cam. If the weather's fine you'll be in full sun. Wear a solid, comfortable pair of shoes - there's only 5 metres of face climbing - the rest of the time at least one of your footsies will be in a crack.
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14-Oct-2005 10:48:06 AM
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Run all your pitches to full 50m. Can be done in roughly 4 pitches.
The belays used to be at T trees, may have been burnt out??
Can be done in about 3 and half hours if you pitch it this way.
Wear long sleeves, long pants, tape gloves and an old pair of stiff soled high top climbing shoes, La Sportiva Enduro's are the shit.
Climb with one hand, one foot in the crack, the other smearing and palming, do this for until pain sets in, then swap.
Take a couple of 3.5's and 4's a rack of mid and large nuts. You should be able to shuffle cams as you go, eliminating the need for too many cams.
Fantastic route - enjoy!
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14-Oct-2005 11:10:45 AM
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Not worried about falling off the thing, just want to avoid wasting time. Is getting better access and gear advice blowing the onsight. If so throw your guides away!
Any other good routes we should do? Not sure if I could climb much harder than 20/21 at Buffalo.
Thanks for the info already guys.
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14-Oct-2005 11:48:11 AM
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Search function on the left of screen works well :) ...(Angels).
Here is a couple of 'start of thread' posts worth checking, amongst others... (Buffalo);
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=6681
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=15&MessageID=988
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14-Oct-2005 4:55:03 PM
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I've done Angels since the last bush fires & all the belay trees are intact. enjoy - its a great fun day out.
our pitch lengths were determined mostly by gear - did it in 6 from memory.
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15-Oct-2005 10:09:30 PM
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Other climbs to do in that grade....
Sultan
Peroxide Blonde
Commander Cody
Maharajah
Banana Blase
Devilled Cream
The Initiation....
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16-Oct-2005 9:00:37 PM
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Thanks guys. Had a great weekend! We did Angles in 6 hrs car to car and 5 pitches. It's a great line and pretty easy to find. Afterwards, we met a cool Spanish couple, they didnt have a guide (or hardly any gear). We took them up to the Sentinal to climb a cool 20 and then to The Castle where we did a fun 14. This morning we climbed SULTAN! Great Route! We finished on a fun 20 face climb R of Maharaja.
Everything is still closed at Buffalo, including the Campground and Road to the Horn. It seemed the perfect time to visit!
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