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So ends another holiday period when Arapiles gets hammered by people who treat it like there throw away play thing. But I guess that's the consumer attitude which is climbing these days.
Not only cars parked 10 mtrs closer to the crag but also people smashing trees out of the way of boulder problems that have been done a 1000 times before with the tree in place, maybe I should come round your place and start smashing up your backyard!!
And the rubbish?? Is it so hard if the bins are full to take your rubbish home with you? That's what you would have to do if there were no bins at all. But then again judging by the amount of litter around the crags maybe along with smashing stuff in your backyard I should shit everywhere too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was at bundaleer recently and it was disgracefull to see the amount of litter around. However, the thing i noticed most was the abundance of toilet paper just lying around. There were a few cases were the person had gone to the trouble of placing a small rock on top of the toilet paper, but it just dosnt cut it. Furthermore, not only was the crap (litteraly) everywhere, it was visable from the main cliffline in most cases. The spot where i usualy eat lunch (Big rock near manic depresive) had crap from three different culprits right next to where we were sitting.
These lazy inconsiderate climbers (possibly walkers as well) should take an extra 30 secconds to walk down into the scrub, then another 30 secconds to dig a freakin hole. Get your act together guys.
What gets me is how some people think that cigarette butts and finger tape don't count as rubbish! I read somewhere that it takes 20+ years for a cigarette butt to break down. Come on people, don't become the butt (hehe) of our ridicule.
peopple that drop rubbish and cirograt buts derderve a good slap around the ears, it's not to hard to put rubbish in youre pocket or a ziplock bag and through it out when you get back to camp, thats if you even have time to eat when youre out climbing i quite enjoi skipping lunch to go do a nice tred mutley picth.
to all you litter bugs out there "take out what you bring in" if peopple get aney lazeyer parks will close off areas it's happoned before!
"take onley photos, LEAVE ONLEY FOOTPRINTS, stell onley time"
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