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General Climbing Discussion

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Bolt Removal 24-May-2018 At 10:35:26 PM Stugang
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On 24-May-2018 Wendy wrote:

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>It's a 13m 13 FFS


That is insane logic. Are you seriously saying retro Bolting an obscure 13m grade 13 so the masses can come and do it is a valid argument at a crag like araps.

FFS if you are a “grade 13” climber (whatever that means) at araps and you have climbed everything actually worth doing at the grade that isn’t “goey”. Then quite frankly you should be able to progress to something that is a bit “goey”.

If you can’t then who the fk are you to expect that a crag like araps should be developed to cater for your glacial progression. And people putting up climbs shouldn’t be catering to the 0% of the population who have done all the good safe ones that can’t progress. Heaven forbid I reckon they’d be able to do a good safe 14!

Quite frankly I think araps is at a stage of development where all new bolts should be banned below 25 (just a guess maybe higher maybe lower). If you can’t do it just leave it and stop giving shit arguments about “traditionally araps has had crap ethics so I am justified in being just as if not more crap.”

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