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Bolt Removal 24-May-2018 At 6:58:23 AM Duang Daunk

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On 24-May-2018 Wendy wrote:
>This reminds me of a little situation that happened with Greenfingers.
>It's on old route of Noddy's, had been ignored for 30 years before I went
>and did it, and Lou and I thought it was pretty goey up the top slab for
>13 and would be a more accessible route if there was a bolt in the finish.
>As Noddy and I are both adults, we had a little chat about it. We both
>went and redid the route and it turns out that Noddy finishes the route
>further to the left, where Brown Thumb now finishes, which does have gear
>and he didn't want a bolt in it. Now, I think my finish is a little different
>to his finish, and doesn't have gear in it, but the finish of the route
>isn't clear in the route description. Now his vision has been clarified,
>but because he didn't want a bolt in it and he had been fabulously mature
>and sensible about it, I didn't do it. Everyone was happy. How fûcking
>hard is it?
>
>Talk with people. Clarify stuff that isn't clear. Negotiate. Make compromises.
>It's all part of getting along and finding workable solutions.
>
>Am I the only person who thinks that anonymous bolt choppers going on
>rampages is asking for trouble?

You gave up your chance to safetyise your new direct finish sister?
Or maybe it isn’t that goey after all?
Ever heard of spacing gear further apart towards the top of pitches? Sounds like it fits right in by leaving as is.

What’s wrogn with goey anyway?
More importantly, why should you decide that for everyone else?

It smacks of same mentality as the run amok bolters.

Sound of one hand clapping happening here. Maybe get together with J Grollo to have two hands clapping for safety?