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Rock # 59 - the final issue ?

johnchurch@

21-Jun-2004
4:51:18 PM

A visit to the Rock web site , shows the editorial title as ' Bagging Rock ' - what does this mean ? Anyone seen the latest mag yet ?

Cheers , John


phil box

21-Jun-2004
5:03:33 PM

On 21/06/2004 johnchurch@ wrote:
>A visit to the Rock web site , shows the editorial title as ' Bagging Rock
>' - what does this mean ? >
> Cheers , John

Maybe they are sick of all us climbers bagging them.

Then again they might be planning on setting up a quarry at Araps and bagging the rock and selling it to all the climbers who have grown to love that place and wish to have a piece of Araps in their own back yard.
...Phil...

johnchurch@

21-Jun-2004
5:11:21 PM

Rock is usually a very 'sick' (good) mag , so hopefully it will rock-on forever...

Cheers John


nmonteith

21-Jun-2004
5:13:30 PM

The new issue will come out late next week at earlist.


mousey

21-Jun-2004
6:30:10 PM

definately not (the last issue)

johnchurch@

28-Jun-2004
3:39:50 PM

What is the difference between Chris and Ted ?

Cais contributes to Qurank , but Baxter doesn't ? contribute to Chockstone...

Cheers, John

28-Jun-2004
4:52:15 PM

If you are a media mogul (isn't that a bump on a ski run?) you need all the content you can lay your hands on for your magazines. That means you are too busy chasing up contributors to be a contributor yourself.

In a similar vein, have you noticed how Tempest and Carter don't seem to contribute to Rock/Wild? But then less than 5% of VCC members contribute to Argus; maybe it means that the world is made up of those who contribute and those who consume and those who contribute are particular about where they contribute.


nmonteith

28-Jun-2004
5:03:54 PM

I don't see the comparison John? Ted has only recently 'opened' up and started to devulge information to Qurank and the general climbing community. Chris has been writing, photographing and editing 20 years of climbing magazines in Australia.

johnchurch@

28-Jun-2004
10:56:35 PM

Thanks for some good points , guys.

Hopefully Tempest and Carter haven't become jaded...

20 years ? ; how long has the internet been around...

Cheers, John


nmonteith

29-Jun-2004
8:51:39 AM

Simon and Glenn have both contributed to this site over the years - but both of them are also incredibly busy establishing their publishing empires!

29-Jun-2004
9:00:12 AM

Hey BA, Simon Carter's reasons for no longer contributing to Rock (his photos used to dominate it!) are given at http://www.chockstone.org/Interviews/SCarter.htm

Just this weekend I met others with similar reservations

johnchurch@

29-Jun-2004
10:34:11 AM

Ok , so whats the answer ?

Simon is obviously keen to contribute his excellent Australian photos, with the right legal conditions , so maybe once Simon and Glenn get a bit more established , they can negoiate a joint-venture to take-over Rock, from Wild Publications , and start a new epoch in Australian climbing magazine excellence...

Cheers , John


nmonteith

29-Jun-2004
10:37:26 AM

Always remember that Rock magazine hardly makes a profit. It is almost completely subsidised by Wild Magazines profits.

dalai

29-Jun-2004
11:00:31 AM

Unfortunately there just isn't the demand for a quality Australian publication providing current news items and great photos. Anyone still recall past publications - Australian Rockclimber, Splat, or photographer Mike Myers Climb Magazine?


HM33

29-Jun-2004
11:05:46 AM

climb was a great mag. it was a pity when it went down.

dalai

29-Jun-2004
11:09:39 AM

Climb was a great magazine. Really good photographs and news which wasn't six months old!!

29-Jun-2004
12:42:38 PM

You forgot Screamer and Flash, Dalai. Climb was bloody a good mag, 'tis a pity it sunk.

Have a look at some of the OS mags and even in England it takes a general approach to get the sales up. High Mountain Sports aka High (out of Crags) has a walking section amongst the local scenes, OS areas, Alpine and Mountaineering news. It would be a bit like merging Rock and Wild, the bits you were personally interested in would diminish in size. Rock often contains a lot of shite, but it is Australian shite and for that we should be grateful.

And don't forget that if something appears quarterly it implies a 3 month (minimum) lead time. Argus has often started the following months edition before the current months edition has been emailed off to the printers due to size constraints and stuff just missing the deadline, I'm sure it is a lot tighter producing a mega-glossy.

dalai

29-Jun-2004
12:51:34 PM

Screamer was before my time and Flash only made one issue so doesn't really count?!

You don't have any intention of enlarging your Media mogul empire from guidebooks and Argus to start a worthwhile current Australian climbing magazine Bill?

29-Jun-2004
3:04:30 PM

Screamer was a classic mag... very funny indeed... unlike Rock.
Any self respecting Victorian / Melbourne climber should try and get there hands on the pull out guide "Melbournes local crags" by Mike Law which appeared in Screamer many years ago... even for the history lesson! Its a gem.


nmonteith

7-Jul-2004
3:06:05 PM

The new Rock issue is at the Newsagents today. Front cover is a Simon Carter photo of Steve Monks freeing Lord Gumtree @ Buffalo. Articles include...

Accident on Mt Cook
Flinders Island crag overview
The Life of Kevin Westren
and the usual flood of Cameron Barrie photos....

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