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Ethics through the ages.

Miguel75

6/09/2012
1:31:42 PM

Here's an interesting historical article on ethics I thought I'd share.

http://mountaineers.org/nwmj/05/051_Ethics.html

Edward Oslabofvic

6/09/2012
1:44:21 PM

I liked the picture of early climbing on Mont Blanc. The more things change, the more they stay the same

Macciza

6/09/2012
3:39:05 PM

Perhaps after reading this people might realise what a travesty the recent Mt York actions are . . .

Jim Titt

6/09/2012
6:24:48 PM

Not sure about the timelines there, mountaineering "starting" with the ascent of Mon Blanc is dubious to put it mildly since many of the major peaks in the Alps had already been climbed, some centuries before. The first described bolt route (aid and protection) in the USA was in 1875 not the 1930´s.

The good Dr

7/09/2012
9:05:49 AM

On 6/09/2012 Jim Titt wrote:
>Not sure about the timelines there, mountaineering "starting" with the
>ascent of Mon Blanc is dubious to put it mildly since many of the major
>peaks in the Alps had already been climbed, some centuries before. The
>first described bolt route (aid and protection) in the USA was in 1875
>not the 1930´s.

Another earlier notable ascent was in France (again) ...

In the medieval period, Mont Aiguille was traditionally called "Mount Inaccessible", and typically depicted as an "inverted pyramid" or "mushroom".[2] The mountain is most noted for its first ascent in 1492. Charles VIII ordered that the peak be climbed, so one of his servants, Antoine de Ville, made the ascent using a combination of ladders, ropes and other artificial aids.[4] He was visited in the following days by many local members of the nobility and aristocracy.[5] The team bivouaced on the summit for eight days, erecting small crosses and a stone shelter. The ascent is described by François Rabelais in his Quart Livre.[5] This was the first recorded climb of any technical difficulty, and has been said to mark the beginning of mountaineering.[6] The mountain was not climbed again until 1834, nearly 350 years later, when it was ascended by a local pastor, accompanied for one-quarter of the way by local explorers. (from the Wikipedia entry)

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