Goto Chockstone Home

  Tech Tips

      Sponsored By

Chockstone Photography
Australian Landscape Photography by Michael Boniwell
Australian Landscape Prints

Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Topic Date User
The most dangerous time of your life!!? 17-Mar-2012 At 3:17:49 PM davidn
On 17/03/2012 cruze wrote:
>While I agree with the sentiment, I think it is a bit black and white to
>say "mountaineering" is dangerous and cragging is less so.

To the stats, batman! The climbing accidents in Australia report (Iain Sedgman: indicates that of the injuries recorded in a 49 year period, over 69% were rock climbing injuries, and 21% were mountaineering injuries. Yet 55.4% of the deaths were mountaineering-related. Australia is by no means a go-to destination for mountaineering, of course.

To quote another site that keeps evidence on climbing fatalities and injuries ( :

"The statistics from the past 50 years as well as from this year indicate that mountaineering is much more hazardous than rock climbing. If you go climbing in the mountains, it's more likely that accidents will happen. Climbers travelling across snow slopes and icy terrain account for a lot of accidents and deaths due to avalanches, falls, and falling objects. Mountains also have lots of loose rock, unstable slopes, and danger from weather."

So cragging is less dangerous than mountaineering. Black and white, but then that's not saying cragging isn't dangerous.

Back to Gadd's point. Anyone can talk about what they think is dangerous based on their own experience or a throwaway line they heard once, but... imagining something to be true doesn't make it true. To assert that Gadd is trying to have his cake and eat it too is just inflammatory for the sake of it. He's telling people to stop deluding themselves into believing crossing the road is more dangerous than mountaineering (as well as obviously having some personal crises of faith in his chosen religion of climbing). So essentially... "It's dangerous, make your decisions on that basis" - isn't that the European approach?

There are 63 replies to this topic.


Home | Guide | Gallery | Tech Tips | Articles | Reviews | Dictionary | Forum | Links | About | Search
Chockstone Photography | Landscape Photography Australia | Australian Landscape Photography | Landscape Photos Australia

Please read the full disclaimer before using any information contained on these pages.

Australian Panoramic | Australian Coast | Australian Mountains | Australian Countryside | Australian Waterfalls | Australian Lakes | Australian Cities | Australian Macro | Australian Wildlife
Landscape Photo | Landscape Photography | Landscape Photography Australia | Fine Art Photography | Wilderness Photography | Nature Photo | Australian Landscape Photo | Stock Photography Australia | Landscape Photos | Panoramic Photos | Panoramic Photography Australia | Australian Landscape Photography | High Country Mountain Huts | Mothers Day Gifts | Gifts for Mothers Day | Mothers Day Gift Ideas | Ideas for Mothers Day | Wedding Gift Ideas | Christmas Gift Ideas | Fathers Day Gifts | Gifts for Fathers Day | Fathers Day Gift Ideas | Ideas for Fathers Day | Landscape Prints | Landscape Poster | Limited Edition Prints | Panoramic Photo | Buy Posters | Poster Prints